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Restricting Shirk - تقييد الشرك

Salam all

Today is the day to demolish the shirk of Mushrik Muslim, WittyBoy (WB) and his pals from among the kafirs. If you are not following this lengthy discussion, then at least you should be aware of the following:

- Mushrik WB is passionately defending the Man Made rubbish books of hadith which he shirks with the book of Allah; what he is doing is not unique, all Mushrikoon before him and up to this moment did and do the same, they passionately defend their shirk.

- Mushrik WB replied to the hadith, from Abi Dawoud Man Made book about Muawiah deleting the written hadith after Zaid informed him that he is not allowed to write hadith, by telling us, Muawiah was not a Khalifah at the time. Mushrik WB knows well that if the hadith had told us that Muawiah was the Khalifah at the time, then his associates�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?? big lie about the prophet will be exposed and destroyed. Their lie is simply, the prophet later on in his life and before his death allowed writing the hadith, which should lead to Muawiah never deleting the Man Made hadith that he wrote in a book. Therefore he is using the vagueness in the hadith not to make a point for him, rather to disable a point against him for which he will have no answer. His tactics is acceptable by me though, if you don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t have an answer to an argument then try to disable or invalidate the argument. So I will give it to him this time and accept his argument which disabled my argument using that hadith about Muawiah.

Now, if I prove to WB from his own Man Made books by the Sunnis sect followers that most of the sahaba especially the close ones to the prophet refused to write the sunnah in books and deleted any written sunnah in their Man Made books during the prophet time and after the prophet�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s death, then the argument of Al-Mushrikoon concerning allowing to write the hadith during the prophet later time of his life must be dead and invalid. At that point inshaallah, WB will have no option but to submit to his Lord by stopping his shirk then work hard with the sincere Muslims to save their great religion from the sinful hands of those Mushrikoon bound to hell.

This is what this comment all about, I will refer to and translate all hadith found in the first 17 pages of the following book:

Book name: تقييد العلم , i.e. Restricting Knowledge
By: الخطيب البغدادي , Al-Khateeb Al-Bughdadi

The book is divided in two main parts, the first part shows us all the hadith concerning the prophet and many of the sahaba refraining from writing hadith (sunnah), and if they already wrote it down, they had to delete it, or burn it, or Erased it in water.

You have to know that the author of this book is not against writing hadith, otherwise he would have not written his own book about hadith. The author of this book is another Mushrik who disobeyed the prophet boldly and documented the hadith in a book defying the prophet command. That is why the author dedicated the second part of his Man Made book showing the opposite, i.e. the prophet and the sahaba allowed writing the hadith (sunnah).

The interesting point is this, when you read the first part of the book which prohibits the writing of the hadith, you can sense merit and integrity in the told stories; in addition to that, you should also see clear compatibility with Quran. However, when you read the second part, you should sense the opposite, i.e. sensing non sense, manipulations and incompatibility with Quran, and even incompatibility with the first part of the same book by the same author.

Of course that Mushrik author concluded that the Man Made hadith should be written, otherwise he would have convicted himself and all his hadith worshipping pals in his own book.

Today, I am going to walk you through the first part; but in the second part, I will only show you the only evidence they presented from the Quran to support their allegation for writing the hadith. The reason of not replying to their evidences from their hadith supporting the writing of the hadith should be known by all who read my criticism, you all know that I don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t reply to evidences presented against me from their Man Made rubbish books of hadith, on the other hand, myself as a complete hadith rejector and denier has the luxury to use such crap against its worshippers from among the kafirs and their fellow Mushrik Muslims; the kafirs and Mushriks will never have such luxury against me, THEY CAN ONLY USE QURAN AGAINST ME.

The first 17 pages in this Man Made book takes us through the time of the prophet, then it moves to the time after his death (very early Muslims), then it moves to a later time after that, the time of the followers of the very early Muslims. So let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s get the ball rolling:

1- The hadith from the prophet prohibiting writing the hadith:

عن أبي سعيد الخدري، إن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قال: لا تكتبوا عني شيئاً سوى القرآن وقال الصغاني- غير القرآن - ثم اتفقنا- فمن كتب عني غير القرآن فليمحه
Abi Saeed Al-Khadri said that the prophet said: Do not write anything from me except Quran, and whoever wrote anything from me except Quran, he should Erased it.

The above compelling proof from their own Man Made book is directly from prophet Muhammed and is repeated in this book through different chain of narrators 8 times, i.e. Mutawatir hadith (popular and is circulated orally a lot between the sahaba). We have seen already that Ahmed Ibn Hanbal listed it in his Man Made book 5 times through 5 different chains of narrators.
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2- The hadith in which Abi Saeed Al-Khadri asked permission from the prophet to write the hadith but was refused:

عن أبي سعيد الخدري قال: استأذنت رسول الله صلى الله عليه أن يأذن لي أن أكتب الحديث فلم يأذن لي،
وقال البخاري فأبى أن يأذن لي.
Abi Saeed said: I asked permission from the prophet to write the hadith, but he did not allow me to do it.

And Bukhari said it: He refused to allow me to do it..

The above hadith is repeated 3 times through different chains of narrators, in one of those three times, not only Abi Saeed who asked permission from the prophet to write hadith, but Abi Saeed and a few with him. This is how it was said:

عن أبي سعيد الخدري قال: استأذنا النبي صلى الله عليه في الكتاب فأبى أن يأذن لنا.
Abi Saeed said: We asked the prophet to write (hadith), but he refused to allow us to do it.

The above compelling proof from their own Man Made book is a prohibition from prophet Muhammed, it is repeated in this book through different chains of narrators 3 times. One of them was listed in Bukhari Man Made book as seen above: And Bukhari said it: He refused to allow me to do it.
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3- Abi Hurairah:

عن أبي هريرة قال: خرج علينا رسول الله صلى الله عليه ونحن نكتب الأحاديث فقال ما هذا الذي تكتبون? قلنا: أحاديث سمعناها منك قال: أكتاباً غير كتاب الله تريدون؛ ما أضل الأمم من قبلكم إلا ما اكتتبوا من الكتب مع كتاب الله
Abi Hurairah said: The messenger of Allah entered upon us while we were writing hadith, so he said: what is that you are writing?

We said: The hadith we heard from you.

The prophet said: A book other than the book of Allah you want? What misguided the nations before you is not but what they wrote of books next to the book of Allah.

Then Abu Hurairah replied:

، قال أبو هريرة فجمعناها في صعيد واحد فألقيناها في النار
Abu Hurairah then said: So we collected it all together and threw it in the fire.

In another incident, it became known to the prophet that some people wrote his hadith:

عن أبي هريرة قال: بلغ رسول الله أن ناساً قد كتبوا حديثه، فصعد المنبر، فحمد الله وأثنى عليه ثم قال ما هذه الكتب التي بلغني أنكم قد كتبتم، إِنما أنا بشر. من كان عنده منها شيء فليأت به ؛ فجمعناها فأخرجت
Abi Hurairah said: The messenger of Allah was informed that some people wrote his hadith, so he climbed into the stand then praised and thanked Allah and said:

What are these books that you have written? Indeed, I am only a human, whoever has of these books should bring it in.

So we collected it and destroyed it.

Can you see how the prophet told them: إِنما أنا بشر , i.e. I am only a human. Why you reckon he might have told them so? Well, it implies to me that for a religious scripture to be followed, it has to be from God, not from any humans.
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4- Zaid Ibn Thabit:

This is the hadith about which Mushrik WB might be confused or lying, the hadith context is direct in that Muawiah was in a position of power, nothing but a Khalifah, however because the hadith did not mention so, WB took it as a chance to not to get busted lying, so I am going to give it him, considering how desperate and confused he is, yet the lesson of deleting the hadith should not be overlooked, especially that later on we should read clearly that the sahaba refrained themselves from writing hadith, as well deleted any written hadith years and years after the prophet�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s death, which should proves without an atom weight of doubt that the Mushrikoon are lying and or confused:

عن المطلب بن عبد الله بن حَنْطب قال: دخل زيد بن ثابت على معاوية، فسأله عن حديث، فأمر إنساناً يكتبه، فقال له زيد إن رسول الله صلى الله عليه أمرنا أن لا نكتب شيئاً من حديثه فمحاه.

Zaid Ibn Thabit entered upon Muawiah. Muawiah asked him about a hadith and commanded a man to write, so Zaid said to him: The messenger of Allah commanded us not to write anything from his hadith.

So Muawiah deleted it

In another hadith, Zaid Ibn Thabit said to Abdul Muttalib Ibn Hantab:

عن المطلب بن حنطب عن زيد بن ثابت أن النبي صلى الله عليه نهى أن يكتب حديثه.
The prophet prohibited that his hadith be written in books.

And that was how Zaid Ibn Thabit obeyed the prophet in not writing anything he said except Quran.
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In the next section we should read some Mawqoof hadith, which means any hadith that is not linked to the prophet, just between the sahaba and themselves, this clearly means that the prophet was dead at that time, otherwise they would have consulted him so that he would have guided them to do the right thing.

We have read earlier that Abi Saeed Al-Khadri was prohibited directly by the prophet to write any hadith said by the prophet other than Quran. Some years later, some people asked Abi Saeed Al-Khadri to write the hadith for them, let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s see if Abi Saeed Al-Khadri obeyed the prophet or not:

5- Abi Saeed Al-Khadri:

عن أبي نضرة قال: قلنا لأبي سعيد لو كتبتم لنا، فإنا لا نحفظ قال لا نُكتبكم، ولا نجعلها مصاحف؛ كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه يحدثنا فنحفظ، فاحفظوا عنا كما كنا نحفظ عن نبيكم .
Abi Nadrah said: We asked Abi Saeed to write the hadith for us as we cannot memorise, so he said: No, we will not write it to you nor will we make it scriptures, the messenger of Allah used to tell us hadith and we memorised it, therefore you have to memorise it from us as we memorised it from your prophet.

See how Abi Saeed said: ولا نجعلها مصاحف , i.e. nor will we make it scriptures.
This confirms the previous point I made, that a written book to be followed must be a scripture from God, not from any human.

It is obvious Abi Saeed dealt directly with the prophet in an incident that mentioned earlier in which he asked permission from the prophet to write his hadith, but the prophet refused. Therefore Abi Saeed who was talking above about the dead prophet must have been obeying his commands.

In another incident the same guy Abi Nadrah informed Abi Saeed that they already wrote some hadith, so let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s see how Abi Saeed reacted:

عن أبي نضرة أنه قال: قلنا لأبي سعيد إنا اكتتبنا حديثاً من حديث رسول الله صلى الله عليه ، قال امحه .
Abi Nadrah said: We said to Abi Saeed that we have written some hadith from the hadith of the messenger of Allah, so he (Abi Saeed) said: Delete it.

And that was how Abi Saeed Al-Khadri obeyed the prophet in not writing anything he said except Quran.
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6- Abdullah Ibn Masoud:

عن أبي الشعثاء المحاربي أن ابن مسعود كره كتاب العلم
Abi Al-Shaatha Al-Muharbi mentioned that Ibn Masoud despised writing hadith.

عن الشعبي عن عبد الرحمن بن عبد الله بن مسعود قال: كنا نسمع الشيء، فنكتبه، ففطن لنا عبد الله، فدعا أم ولده، ودعا بالكتاب وبإجانة من ماء، فغسله .
Shubi said that Abdul Rahaman Ibn Abdullah Ibn Masoud said: We used to hear the hadith and write it, but Abdullah Ibn Masoud knew, so he called us and brought what we wrote along with a bucket of water, then he washed it.

عن مسروق قال: حدث ابن مسعود بحديث فقال ابنه ليس كما حدثت قال وما علمك قال كتبته قال فهلم الصحيفة فجاء بها فمحاها.
Masrooq said: Ibn Masoud said a hadith, so his son said to him: It is not as you said it before.

So Ibn Masoud asked his son: And how did you know?

His son replied: Because I wrote it when you said it before.

So Ibn Masoud brought what his son wrote and washed it with water.

Obviously the hadith chain of narrators included the son of Abdullah Ibn Masoud, whose name is Abdul Rahaman. I suspect the kids have grown and it was in a later time after the prophet died.

And that was how Abdullah Ibn Masoud obeyed the prophet in not writing anything he said except Quran.
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7- Abi Musa Al-Ashaari:

عن أبي بردة قال: كتبت عن أبي كتباً كثيرة فمحاها وقال خذ عنا كما أخذنا .
Abi Bardah said: I wrote many (hadith) books from my father (Abi Musa Al-Ashaari), but he deleted them and said: Take from us (through memorising) as we have taken (from the prophet).

عن أبي بردة قال: كان أبو موسى يحدثنا بأحاديث فنقوم أنا ومولى لي فنكتبها فحدثنا يوماً بأحاديث فقمنا لنكتبها فظن أنا نكتبها فقال: أتكتبان ما سمعتما مني? قالا نعم قال فجيئاني به فدعا بماء فغسله، وقال احفظوا كما حفظنا
Abi Bardah said: Abu Musa used to narrate hadith to us, so myself and a comrade of mine wrote it down; one day he suspected that we wrote it, so he said to us:

Did you write what you hear from me?

They replied: Yes

Abi Musa Al-Ashaari said: Bring them to me.

We did, then he washed it with water and said: Memorise (the hadith) as we memorised (it).

And that was how Abi Musa Al-Ashaari obeyed the prophet in not writing anything he said except Quran.
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8- Abi Hurairah:

عن سعيد بن أبي الحسن قال: لم يكن من أصحاب النبي صلى الله عليه أكثر من أبي هريرة حديثاً عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه، وإن مروان، زمن هو على المدينة، أراد أن يكتبه حديثه، فأبى، وقال أرووا كما روينا فلما أبى عليه، تغفله فأقعد له كاتباً لقناً ثقفا، ودعاه، فجعل أبو هريرة يحدثه، ويكتب الكاتب، حتى استفرغ حديثه أجمع؛ قال ثم قال مروان تعلم أنا قد كتبنا حديثك أجمع? قال وقد فعلتم? قال نعم قال فاقرأوه عليّ إذاً قال فقرأوه عليه فقال أبو هريرة أما إنكم قد حفظتم، وإن تطعني تمحه قال فمحاه.
Saeed Ibn Abi Al-Hasan said: There was no one from the companions of the prophet who narrated more hadith than Abi Hurairah.

And Marawan wanted to write the hadith narrated by Abi Hurairah but Abi Hurairah refused and said: Narrate hadith from us as we did.

So when Abi Hurairah denied Marawan to write his hadith, Marawan called a writer and made Abu Hurairah tell him hadith while the writer wrote it.

When Abu Hurairah finished his hadith, Marawan said to him: Did you know that we wrote all your hadith?

Abu Hurairah said: Did you do it?

Marawan said: Yes.

Abu Hurairah said: Then read it to me.

After Marawan read it to Abu Hurairah, Abu Hurairah said: It is either you memorise it or you obey me and delete it.

So Marawan deleted the written hadith.

عن أبي كثير قال سمعت أبا هريرة يقول لا يكتم ولا يكتب.
Abi Kathir said: I heard Aba Hurairah saying: I don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t conceal nor write (hadith).

And that was how Abu Hurairah obeyed the prophet in not writing anything the prophet said except Quran.

On the other hand it seems there is a huge contradiction in here; because in Bukhari Man Made book of hadith we read that Abu Hurairah concealed a great part of hadith, otherwise Omar Ibn Al-Khattab would have expelled him from the land, see:

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Abu Hurairah said: I memorized from the prophet two things (two groups of hadith), one that I have already spread, and if I had spread the other, my throat would have been severed.

Remember WB when I showed you earlier Omar Ibn Al-Khattab threatening Abu Hurairah to be expelled if he does not quit speaking hadith:

From the book: سير أعلام النبلاء, Sayar Aalaam Al-Nubalaa, i.e. The stories of noble ones

Author: شمس الدين أبو عبد الله محمد بن أحمد الذَهَبي , in brief: Shams Al-Zahabi

سَعِيْدُ بنُ عَبْدِ العَزِيْزِ: عَنْ إِسْمَاعِيْلَ بنِ عُبَيْدِ اللهِ، عَنِ السَّائِبِ بنِ يَزِيْدَ، سَمِعَ عُمَرَ يَقُوْلُ لأَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ:
لَتَتْرُكَنَّ الحَدِيْثَ عَنْ رَسُوْلِ اللهِ -صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ- أَوْ لأُلْحِقَنَّكَ بِأَرْضِ دَوْسٍ.
وَقَالَ لِكَعْبٍ: لَتَتْرُكَنَّ الحَدِيْثَ، أَوْ لأُلْحِقَنَّكَ بِأَرْضِ القِرَدَةِ. (2/601)

Sa�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??ib Bin Yazeed heard Omar Ibn Al-Khattab saying to Abi Hurairah:

You must stop speaking hadith or I will expel you to the land of Dous

And Omar Ibn Al-Khattab said to Kaab Al-Ahbar:

You must stop speaking hadith or I will expel you to the land of monkeys.

What load of crap was that, so Abu Hurairah told us first:

I do not conceal nor write (hadith).

Yet we are told in Bukhari Man Made book that Abu Hurairah concealed a great part of hadith fearing for his safety or to be expelled to the land Dous in Yemen and for his pal, to the land of monkeys.

This actually means that we cannot guarantee the integrity of the things alleged to be said by Abu Hurairah, and all of it must be dismissed.
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9- Abdullah Ibn Abbas:

عن ابن طاوس عن أبيه قال: سأل ابن عباس رجلٌ من أهل نجران، فأعجب ابن عباس حسن مسألته، فقال الرجل اكتبه لي فقال ابن عباس إنا لا نكتب العلم .
Abi Tawoos said that his father said: Ibn Abbas was asked a question by a man from the people of Najran, then Ibn Abbas liked the good question of that man, so the man told Ibn Abbas: Write the answer for me.

So Ibn Abbas replied: Indeed, we do not write the knowledge (hadith).

عن طاوس قال: إن كان الجل يكتب إلى ابن عباس يسأله عن الأمر، فيقول للرجل الذي جاء: أخبر صاحبك أن الأمر كذا وكذا، فأنا لا نكتب في الصحف إلا في الرسائل والقرآن
Tawoos said: A man used to write to Ibn Abbas asking him about some issues, he sent to Ibn Abbas another man with his questions written, so Ibn Abbas said to the man who delivered the written questions: Inform him that the answers are so and so, as we do not write in books other than personal messages and Quran.
See how Ibn Abbas clearly identified the things they should write in books, the Quran and any personal message that is addressed to some individuals; this fact should destroy al-Mushrikoon lies that the prophet allowed writing hadith as he allowed writing the messages that he sent to Cesar and other rulers inviting them to Islam as alleged in the Man Made books of hadith. These messages were personal messages addressed to certain people, therefore as we read above by Ibn Abbas, writing such messages was allowed along with Quran, but never was writing the Man Made hadith allowed for the people to ponder upon

حدثنا طاوس قال: كنا عند ابن عباس قال، وكان سعيد بن جبير يكتب، قال فقيل لابن عباس إنهم يكتبون قال أيكتبون ثم قام، وكان حسن الخُلق، قال ولولا حسن خلقه، لغير بأشد من القيام،
Tawoos said: We were visiting Ibn Abbas who was saying hadith. A man named Saeed Ibn Jabir was writing what Ibn Abbas was saying. It was said to Ibn Abbas about those who were writing, so Ibn Abbas said:

Did they indeed write (my hadith)? Then he stood up and left because he was of a good character. Was he not of a good character, he would behaved by something that would have been more than standing and leaving.

And it seems that being of a good character with those Mushrikoon will take us no where other than more and more shirk, that is why I will not be of a good character with those filthy Mushrikoon, simply being of a good character did not work nor will it ever work. To confront those hardcore Mushrikoon and Iblis worshippers, I have to be as aggressive as I can than those filthy Mushrikoon so I can debate with merit and with their written references and beat them at their own game.

Lets continue on�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¦

حدثنا حنظلة بن أبي سفيان قال: سمعت طاوساً يقول: لما عمي ابن عباس، جعل ناس من أهل العراق يسألونه ويكتبون. قال فجاء إنسان من أهله، فالتقم أذنه فلم يتكلم حتى قام.
Hanzalah Ibn Abi Suffian said: I heard Tawoos saying, when Ibn Abbas was blinded, the people used to ask him and write his answers, so a man from Ibn Abbas family came to him and informed him with those who were writing, so he stopped talking until he stood and left.

It seems that the filthy Mushrikoon who want to write Man Made crap in books to worship were shifty enough to take the opportunity of the blindness of their teacher Abdullah Ibn Abbas so they can write his hadith while he is not aware of it.

أخبرني الحسن بن مسلم عن سعيد بن جبير أن ابن عباس كان ينهي عن كتاب العلم، وأنه قال إنما أضل من قبلكم الكتب .
Al-Hasan Ibn Muslim said that Saeed Ibn Jabir said: Indeed, Ibn Abbas prohibited writing the knowledge (hadith), and he used to say: Indeed, what misguided the nations before you is only the books.

And that was how Abdullah Ibn Abbas obeyed the prophet in not writing anything the prophet said except Quran.
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How clear that most of those before the Muslims were misguided because of the Man Made books they created. In fact Allah tells us clearly that if we walk in the land we should know that most of the people before us were Mushrikoon, see:

قُلْ سِيرُوا فِي الْأَرْضِ فَانْظُرُوا كَيْفَ كَانَ عَاقِبَةُ الَّذِينَ مِنْ قَبْلُ ۚ كَانَ أَكْثَرُهُمْ مُشْرِكِينَ (42)
Say: Walk in the land and see how the consequence was for those before you. Most of them were polytheists.
[Al Quran ; 30:42]

Certainly those alleged hadith telling us that the people before us were destroyed not because they committed sins while not shirking with Allah anything, because we know well that Allah may forgive all sins except Shirk, i.e. those people before us were not but Mushrikoon, that is why they have to be destroyed by Allah because of their unforgivable crime of shirk.

Another important fact that Muslims should be aware of, Allah never commanded us to write these Man Made books of hadith, nor His prophet, however Iblis on the other hand must have been commanding the Muslims to do the opposite which is to write these Man Made books so they fall prays to the unforgivable crime of shirk, the main objective of Iblis is simply, that Allah will never forgive us, and this can only happen if we listen to Iblis and obey him to write these Man Made books of hadith, see these verses:

فَإِذَا قَرَأْتَ الْقُرْآنَ فَاسْتَعِذْ بِاللَّهِ مِنَ الشَّيْطَانِ الرَّجِيمِ (98)
So when you read the Quran, seek refuge in Allah from the pelted devil.
[Al Quran ; 16:98]

إِنَّهُ لَيْسَ لَهُ سُلْطَانٌ عَلَى الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَلَىٰ رَبِّهِمْ يَتَوَكَّلُونَ (99)
Indeed, he has no authority over those who have believed and rely upon their Lord.
[Al Quran ; 16:99]

إِنَّمَا سُلْطَانُهُ عَلَى الَّذِينَ يَتَوَلَّوْنَهُ وَالَّذِينَ هُمْ بِهِ مُشْرِكُونَ (100)
His authority is only over those who take him as a guardian and those who are through him polytheists.
[Al Quran ; 16:100]

-> See how Allah started those 3 verses by telling us what to do when we read Quran, not when we read the Man Made books of rubbish hadith: when you read the Quran, seek refuge in Allah from the pelted devil. This pelted devil will have no power or authority over the ones who only rely upon Allah for everything including guidance, see: Indeed, he has no authority over those who have believed and rely upon their Lord. Certainly not those who rely upon Man Made piles of contradicting rubbish of crap called hadith, as for those, they indeed worship Iblis by obeying him when he commanded them to write these Man Made of rubbish hadith, see: His authority is only over those who take him as a guardian and those who are through him polytheists. Indeed, through him they are Mushrikoon by obeying his commands which have to be the opposite to Allah�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s commands. See this verse:

أَلَمْ أَعْهَدْ إِلَيْكُمْ يَا بَنِي آدَمَ أَنْ لَا تَعْبُدُوا الشَّيْطَانَ ۖ إِنَّهُ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ مُبِينٌ (60)
Did I not enjoin you, O sons of Adam, that you should not worship the devil, (for) indeed, he is for you an obvious enemy.
[Al Quran ; 36:60]

-> See how Allah is warning all the people from Adam that we should never worship the devil: Did I not enjoin you, O sons of Adam, that you should not worship the devil, the mater of fact remains intact, that those who obey Iblis whose commands should always be the opposite to Allah commands are nothing but worshippers of Iblis. Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s move on to the next set of hadith from that book.
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Continue below�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¦..

[AhmedBahgat]

Restricting Shirk - تقييد الشرك

Salam all

Today is the day to demolish the shirk of Mushrik Muslim, WittyBoy (WB) and his pals from among the kafirs. If you are not following this lengthy discussion, then at least you should be aware of the following:

- Mushrik WB is passionately defending the Man Made rubbish books of hadith which he shirks with the book of Allah; what he is doing is not unique, all Mushrikoon before him and up to this moment did and do the same, they passionately defend their shirk.

- Mushrik WB replied to the hadith, from Abi Dawoud Man Made book about Muawiah deleting the written hadith after Zaid informed him that he is not allowed to write hadith, by telling us, Muawiah was not a Khalifah at the time. Mushrik WB knows well that if the hadith had told us that Muawiah was the Khalifah at the time, then his associates�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?? big lie about the prophet will be exposed and destroyed. Their lie is simply, the prophet later on in his life and before his death allowed writing the hadith, which should lead to Muawiah never deleting the Man Made hadith that he wrote in a book. Therefore he is using the vagueness in the hadith not to make a point for him, rather to disable a point against him for which he will have no answer. His tactics is acceptable by me though, if you don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t have an answer to an argument then try to disable or invalidate the argument. So I will give it to him this time and accept his argument which disabled my argument using that hadith about Muawiah.

Now, if I prove to WB from his own Man Made books by the Sunnis sect followers that most of the sahaba especially the close ones to the prophet refused to write the sunnah in books and deleted any written sunnah in their Man Made books during the prophet time and after the prophet�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s death, then the argument of Al-Mushrikoon concerning allowing to write the hadith during the prophet later time of his life must be dead and invalid. At that point inshaallah, WB will have no option but to submit to his Lord by stopping his shirk then work hard with the sincere Muslims to save their great religion from the sinful hands of those Mushrikoon bound to hell.

This is what this comment all about, I will refer to and translate all hadith found in the first 17 pages of the following book:

Book name: تقييد العلم , i.e. Restricting Knowledge
By: الخطيب البغدادي , Al-Khateeb Al-Bughdadi

The book is divided in two main parts, the first part shows us all the hadith concerning the prophet and many of the sahaba refraining from writing hadith (sunnah), and if they already wrote it down, they had to delete it, or burn it, or Erased it in water.

You have to know that the author of this book is not against writing hadith, otherwise he would have not written his own book about hadith. The author of this book is another Mushrik who disobeyed the prophet boldly and documented the hadith in a book defying the prophet command. That is why the author dedicated the second part of his Man Made book showing the opposite, i.e. the prophet and the sahaba allowed writing the hadith (sunnah).

The interesting point is this, when you read the first part of the book which prohibits the writing of the hadith, you can sense merit and integrity in the told stories; in addition to that, you should also see clear compatibility with Quran. However, when you read the second part, you should sense the opposite, i.e. sensing non sense, manipulations and incompatibility with Quran, and even incompatibility with the first part of the same book by the same author.

Of course that Mushrik author concluded that the Man Made hadith should be written, otherwise he would have convicted himself and all his hadith worshipping pals in his own book.

Today, I am going to walk you through the first part; but in the second part, I will only show you the only evidence they presented from the Quran to support their allegation for writing the hadith. The reason of not replying to their evidences from their hadith supporting the writing of the hadith should be known by all who read my criticism, you all know that I don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t reply to evidences presented against me from their Man Made rubbish books of hadith, on the other hand, myself as a complete hadith rejector and denier has the luxury to use such crap against its worshippers from among the kafirs and their fellow Mushrik Muslims; the kafirs and Mushriks will never have such luxury against me, THEY CAN ONLY USE QURAN AGAINST ME.

The first 17 pages in this Man Made book takes us through the time of the prophet, then it moves to the time after his death (very early Muslims), then it moves to a later time after that, the time of the followers of the very early Muslims. So let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s get the ball rolling:

1- The hadith from the prophet prohibiting writing the hadith:

عن أبي سعيد الخدري، إن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قال: لا تكتبوا عني شيئاً سوى القرآن وقال الصغاني- غير القرآن - ثم اتفقنا- فمن كتب عني غير القرآن فليمحه
Abi Saeed Al-Khadri said that the prophet said: Do not write anything from me except Quran, and whoever wrote anything from me except Quran, he should Erased it.

The above compelling proof from their own Man Made book is directly from prophet Muhammed and is repeated in this book through different chain of narrators 8 times, i.e. Mutawatir hadith (popular and is circulated orally a lot between the sahaba). We have seen already that Ahmed Ibn Hanbal listed it in his Man Made book 5 times through 5 different chains of narrators.
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2- The hadith in which Abi Saeed Al-Khadri asked permission from the prophet to write the hadith but was refused:

عن أبي سعيد الخدري قال: استأذنت رسول الله صلى الله عليه أن يأذن لي أن أكتب الحديث فلم يأذن لي،
وقال البخاري فأبى أن يأذن لي.
Abi Saeed said: I asked permission from the prophet to write the hadith, but he did not allow me to do it.

And Bukhari said it: He refused to allow me to do it..

The above hadith is repeated 3 times through different chains of narrators, in one of those three times, not only Abi Saeed who asked permission from the prophet to write hadith, but Abi Saeed and a few with him. This is how it was said:

عن أبي سعيد الخدري قال: استأذنا النبي صلى الله عليه في الكتاب فأبى أن يأذن لنا.
Abi Saeed said: We asked the prophet to write (hadith), but he refused to allow us to do it.

The above compelling proof from their own Man Made book is a prohibition from prophet Muhammed, it is repeated in this book through different chains of narrators 3 times. One of them was listed in Bukhari Man Made book as seen above: And Bukhari said it: He refused to allow me to do it.
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3- Abi Hurairah:

عن أبي هريرة قال: خرج علينا رسول الله صلى الله عليه ونحن نكتب الأحاديث فقال ما هذا الذي تكتبون? قلنا: أحاديث سمعناها منك قال: أكتاباً غير كتاب الله تريدون؛ ما أضل الأمم من قبلكم إلا ما اكتتبوا من الكتب مع كتاب الله
Abi Hurairah said: The messenger of Allah entered upon us while we were writing hadith, so he said: what is that you are writing?

We said: The hadith we heard from you.

The prophet said: A book other than the book of Allah you want? What misguided the nations before you is not but what they wrote of books next to the book of Allah.

Then Abu Hurairah replied:

، قال أبو هريرة فجمعناها في صعيد واحد فألقيناها في النار
Abu Hurairah then said: So we collected it all together and threw it in the fire.

In another incident, it became known to the prophet that some people wrote his hadith:

عن أبي هريرة قال: بلغ رسول الله أن ناساً قد كتبوا حديثه، فصعد المنبر، فحمد الله وأثنى عليه ثم قال ما هذه الكتب التي بلغني أنكم قد كتبتم، إِنما أنا بشر. من كان عنده منها شيء فليأت به ؛ فجمعناها فأخرجت
Abi Hurairah said: The messenger of Allah was informed that some people wrote his hadith, so he climbed into the stand then praised and thanked Allah and said:

What are these books that you have written? Indeed, I am only a human, whoever has of these books should bring it in.

So we collected it and destroyed it.

Can you see how the prophet told them: إِنما أنا بشر , i.e. I am only a human. Why you reckon he might have told them so? Well, it implies to me that for a religious scripture to be followed, it has to be from God, not from any humans.
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4- Zaid Ibn Thabit:

This is the hadith about which Mushrik WB might be confused or lying, the hadith context is direct in that Muawiah was in a position of power, nothing but a Khalifah, however because the hadith did not mention so, WB took it as a chance to not to get busted lying, so I am going to give it him, considering how desperate and confused he is, yet the lesson of deleting the hadith should not be overlooked, especially that later on we should read clearly that the sahaba refrained themselves from writing hadith, as well deleted any written hadith years and years after the prophet�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s death, which should proves without an atom weight of doubt that the Mushrikoon are lying and or confused:

عن المطلب بن عبد الله بن حَنْطب قال: دخل زيد بن ثابت على معاوية، فسأله عن حديث، فأمر إنساناً يكتبه، فقال له زيد إن رسول الله صلى الله عليه أمرنا أن لا نكتب شيئاً من حديثه فمحاه.

Zaid Ibn Thabit entered upon Muawiah. Muawiah asked him about a hadith and commanded a man to write, so Zaid said to him: The messenger of Allah commanded us not to write anything from his hadith.

So Muawiah deleted it

In another hadith, Zaid Ibn Thabit said to Abdul Muttalib Ibn Hantab:

عن المطلب بن حنطب عن زيد بن ثابت أن النبي صلى الله عليه نهى أن يكتب حديثه.
The prophet prohibited that his hadith be written in books.

And that was how Zaid Ibn Thabit obeyed the prophet in not writing anything he said except Quran.
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In the next section we should read some Mawqoof hadith, which means any hadith that is not linked to the prophet, just between the sahaba and themselves, this clearly means that the prophet was dead at that time, otherwise they would have consulted him so that he would have guided them to do the right thing.

We have read earlier that Abi Saeed Al-Khadri was prohibited directly by the prophet to write any hadith said by the prophet other than Quran. Some years later, some people asked Abi Saeed Al-Khadri to write the hadith for them, let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s see if Abi Saeed Al-Khadri obeyed the prophet or not:

5- Abi Saeed Al-Khadri:

عن أبي نضرة قال: قلنا لأبي سعيد لو كتبتم لنا، فإنا لا نحفظ قال لا نُكتبكم، ولا نجعلها مصاحف؛ كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه يحدثنا فنحفظ، فاحفظوا عنا كما كنا نحفظ عن نبيكم .
Abi Nadrah said: We asked Abi Saeed to write the hadith for us as we cannot memorise, so he said: No, we will not write it to you nor will we make it scriptures, the messenger of Allah used to tell us hadith and we memorised it, therefore you have to memorise it from us as we memorised it from your prophet.

See how Abi Saeed said: ولا نجعلها مصاحف , i.e. nor will we make it scriptures.
This confirms the previous point I made, that a written book to be followed must be a scripture from God, not from any human.

It is obvious Abi Saeed dealt directly with the prophet in an incident that mentioned earlier in which he asked permission from the prophet to write his hadith, but the prophet refused. Therefore Abi Saeed who was talking above about the dead prophet must have been obeying his commands.

In another incident the same guy Abi Nadrah informed Abi Saeed that they already wrote some hadith, so let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s see how Abi Saeed reacted:

عن أبي نضرة أنه قال: قلنا لأبي سعيد إنا اكتتبنا حديثاً من حديث رسول الله صلى الله عليه ، قال امحه .
Abi Nadrah said: We said to Abi Saeed that we have written some hadith from the hadith of the messenger of Allah, so he (Abi Saeed) said: Delete it.

And that was how Abi Saeed Al-Khadri obeyed the prophet in not writing anything he said except Quran.
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6- Abdullah Ibn Masoud:

عن أبي الشعثاء المحاربي أن ابن مسعود كره كتاب العلم
Abi Al-Shaatha Al-Muharbi mentioned that Ibn Masoud despised writing hadith.

عن الشعبي عن عبد الرحمن بن عبد الله بن مسعود قال: كنا نسمع الشيء، فنكتبه، ففطن لنا عبد الله، فدعا أم ولده، ودعا بالكتاب وبإجانة من ماء، فغسله .
Shubi said that Abdul Rahaman Ibn Abdullah Ibn Masoud said: We used to hear the hadith and write it, but Abdullah Ibn Masoud knew, so he called us and brought what we wrote along with a bucket of water, then he washed it.

عن مسروق قال: حدث ابن مسعود بحديث فقال ابنه ليس كما حدثت قال وما علمك قال كتبته قال فهلم الصحيفة فجاء بها فمحاها.
Masrooq said: Ibn Masoud said a hadith, so his son said to him: It is not as you said it before.

So Ibn Masoud asked his son: And how did you know?

His son replied: Because I wrote it when you said it before.

So Ibn Masoud brought what his son wrote and washed it with water.

Obviously the hadith chain of narrators included the son of Abdullah Ibn Masoud, whose name is Abdul Rahaman. I suspect the kids have grown and it was in a later time after the prophet died.

And that was how Abdullah Ibn Masoud obeyed the prophet in not writing anything he said except Quran.
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7- Abi Musa Al-Ashaari:

عن أبي بردة قال: كتبت عن أبي كتباً كثيرة فمحاها وقال خذ عنا كما أخذنا .
Abi Bardah said: I wrote many (hadith) books from my father (Abi Musa Al-Ashaari), but he deleted them and said: Take from us (through memorising) as we have taken (from the prophet).

عن أبي بردة قال: كان أبو موسى يحدثنا بأحاديث فنقوم أنا ومولى لي فنكتبها فحدثنا يوماً بأحاديث فقمنا لنكتبها فظن أنا نكتبها فقال: أتكتبان ما سمعتما مني? قالا نعم قال فجيئاني به فدعا بماء فغسله، وقال احفظوا كما حفظنا
Abi Bardah said: Abu Musa used to narrate hadith to us, so myself and a comrade of mine wrote it down; one day he suspected that we wrote it, so he said to us:

Did you write what you hear from me?

They replied: Yes

Abi Musa Al-Ashaari said: Bring them to me.

We did, then he washed it with water and said: Memorise (the hadith) as we memorised (it).

And that was how Abi Musa Al-Ashaari obeyed the prophet in not writing anything he said except Quran.
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8- Abi Hurairah:

عن سعيد بن أبي الحسن قال: لم يكن من أصحاب النبي صلى الله عليه أكثر من أبي هريرة حديثاً عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه، وإن مروان، زمن هو على المدينة، أراد أن يكتبه حديثه، فأبى، وقال أرووا كما روينا فلما أبى عليه، تغفله فأقعد له كاتباً لقناً ثقفا، ودعاه، فجعل أبو هريرة يحدثه، ويكتب الكاتب، حتى استفرغ حديثه أجمع؛ قال ثم قال مروان تعلم أنا قد كتبنا حديثك أجمع? قال وقد فعلتم? قال نعم قال فاقرأوه عليّ إذاً قال فقرأوه عليه فقال أبو هريرة أما إنكم قد حفظتم، وإن تطعني تمحه قال فمحاه.
Saeed Ibn Abi Al-Hasan said: There was no one from the companions of the prophet who narrated more hadith than Abi Hurairah.

And Marawan wanted to write the hadith narrated by Abi Hurairah but Abi Hurairah refused and said: Narrate hadith from us as we did.

So when Abi Hurairah denied Marawan to write his hadith, Marawan called a writer and made Abu Hurairah tell him hadith while the writer wrote it.

When Abu Hurairah finished his hadith, Marawan said to him: Did you know that we wrote all your hadith?

Abu Hurairah said: Did you do it?

Marawan said: Yes.

Abu Hurairah said: Then read it to me.

After Marawan read it to Abu Hurairah, Abu Hurairah said: It is either you memorise it or you obey me and delete it.

So Marawan deleted the written hadith.

عن أبي كثير قال سمعت أبا هريرة يقول لا يكتم ولا يكتب.
Abi Kathir said: I heard Aba Hurairah saying: I don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t conceal nor write (hadith).

And that was how Abu Hurairah obeyed the prophet in not writing anything the prophet said except Quran.

On the other hand it seems there is a huge contradiction in here; because in Bukhari Man Made book of hadith we read that Abu Hurairah concealed a great part of hadith, otherwise Omar Ibn Al-Khattab would have expelled him from the land, see:

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http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?hnum=117&doc=0

Abu Hurairah said: I memorized from the prophet two things (two groups of hadith), one that I have already spread, and if I had spread the other, my throat would have been severed.

Remember WB when I showed you earlier Omar Ibn Al-Khattab threatening Abu Hurairah to be expelled if he does not quit speaking hadith:

From the book: سير أعلام النبلاء, Sayar Aalaam Al-Nubalaa, i.e. The stories of noble ones

Author: شمس الدين أبو عبد الله محمد بن أحمد الذَهَبي , in brief: Shams Al-Zahabi

سَعِيْدُ بنُ عَبْدِ العَزِيْزِ: عَنْ إِسْمَاعِيْلَ بنِ عُبَيْدِ اللهِ، عَنِ السَّائِبِ بنِ يَزِيْدَ، سَمِعَ عُمَرَ يَقُوْلُ لأَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ:
لَتَتْرُكَنَّ الحَدِيْثَ عَنْ رَسُوْلِ اللهِ -صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ- أَوْ لأُلْحِقَنَّكَ بِأَرْضِ دَوْسٍ.
وَقَالَ لِكَعْبٍ: لَتَتْرُكَنَّ الحَدِيْثَ، أَوْ لأُلْحِقَنَّكَ بِأَرْضِ القِرَدَةِ. (2/601)

Sa�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??ib Bin Yazeed heard Omar Ibn Al-Khattab saying to Abi Hurairah:

You must stop speaking hadith or I will expel you to the land of Dous

And Omar Ibn Al-Khattab said to Kaab Al-Ahbar:

You must stop speaking hadith or I will expel you to the land of monkeys.

What load of crap was that, so Abu Hurairah told us first:

I do not conceal nor write (hadith).

Yet we are told in Bukhari Man Made book that Abu Hurairah concealed a great part of hadith fearing for his safety or to be expelled to the land Dous in Yemen and for his pal, to the land of monkeys.

This actually means that we cannot guarantee the integrity of the things alleged to be said by Abu Hurairah, and all of it must be dismissed.
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9- Abdullah Ibn Abbas:

عن ابن طاوس عن أبيه قال: سأل ابن عباس رجلٌ من أهل نجران، فأعجب ابن عباس حسن مسألته، فقال الرجل اكتبه لي فقال ابن عباس إنا لا نكتب العلم .
Abi Tawoos said that his father said: Ibn Abbas was asked a question by a man from the people of Najran, then Ibn Abbas liked the good question of that man, so the man told Ibn Abbas: Write the answer for me.

So Ibn Abbas replied: Indeed, we do not write the knowledge (hadith).

عن طاوس قال: إن كان الجل يكتب إلى ابن عباس يسأله عن الأمر، فيقول للرجل الذي جاء: أخبر صاحبك أن الأمر كذا وكذا، فأنا لا نكتب في الصحف إلا في الرسائل والقرآن
Tawoos said: A man used to write to Ibn Abbas asking him about some issues, he sent to Ibn Abbas another man with his questions written, so Ibn Abbas said to the man who delivered the written questions: Inform him that the answers are so and so, as we do not write in books other than personal messages and Quran.
See how Ibn Abbas clearly identified the things they should write in books, the Quran and any personal message that is addressed to some individuals; this fact should destroy al-Mushrikoon lies that the prophet allowed writing hadith as he allowed writing the messages that he sent to Cesar and other rulers inviting them to Islam as alleged in the Man Made books of hadith. These messages were personal messages addressed to certain people, therefore as we read above by Ibn Abbas, writing such messages was allowed along with Quran, but never was writing the Man Made hadith allowed for the people to ponder upon

حدثنا طاوس قال: كنا عند ابن عباس قال، وكان سعيد بن جبير يكتب، قال فقيل لابن عباس إنهم يكتبون قال أيكتبون ثم قام، وكان حسن الخُلق، قال ولولا حسن خلقه، لغير بأشد من القيام،
Tawoos said: We were visiting Ibn Abbas who was saying hadith. A man named Saeed Ibn Jabir was writing what Ibn Abbas was saying. It was said to Ibn Abbas about those who were writing, so Ibn Abbas said:

Did they indeed write (my hadith)? Then he stood up and left because he was of a good character. Was he not of a good character, he would behaved by something that would have been more than standing and leaving.

And it seems that being of a good character with those Mushrikoon will take us no where other than more and more shirk, that is why I will not be of a good character with those filthy Mushrikoon, simply being of a good character did not work nor will it ever work. To confront those hardcore Mushrikoon and Iblis worshippers, I have to be as aggressive as I can than those filthy Mushrikoon so I can debate with merit and with their written references and beat them at their own game.

Lets continue on�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¦

حدثنا حنظلة بن أبي سفيان قال: سمعت طاوساً يقول: لما عمي ابن عباس، جعل ناس من أهل العراق يسألونه ويكتبون. قال فجاء إنسان من أهله، فالتقم أذنه فلم يتكلم حتى قام.
Hanzalah Ibn Abi Suffian said: I heard Tawoos saying, when Ibn Abbas was blinded, the people used to ask him and write his answers, so a man from Ibn Abbas family came to him and informed him with those who were writing, so he stopped talking until he stood and left.

It seems that the filthy Mushrikoon who want to write Man Made crap in books to worship were shifty enough to take the opportunity of the blindness of their teacher Abdullah Ibn Abbas so they can write his hadith while he is not aware of it.

أخبرني الحسن بن مسلم عن سعيد بن جبير أن ابن عباس كان ينهي عن كتاب العلم، وأنه قال إنما أضل من قبلكم الكتب .
Al-Hasan Ibn Muslim said that Saeed Ibn Jabir said: Indeed, Ibn Abbas prohibited writing the knowledge (hadith), and he used to say: Indeed, what misguided the nations before you is only the books.

And that was how Abdullah Ibn Abbas obeyed the prophet in not writing anything the prophet said except Quran.
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How clear that most of those before the Muslims were misguided because of the Man Made books they created. In fact Allah tells us clearly that if we walk in the land we should know that most of the people before us were Mushrikoon, see:

قُلْ سِيرُوا فِي الْأَرْضِ فَانْظُرُوا كَيْفَ كَانَ عَاقِبَةُ الَّذِينَ مِنْ قَبْلُ ۚ كَانَ أَكْثَرُهُمْ مُشْرِكِينَ (42)
Say: Walk in the land and see how the consequence was for those before you. Most of them were polytheists.
[Al Quran ; 30:42]

Certainly those alleged hadith telling us that the people before us were destroyed not because they committed sins while not shirking with Allah anything, because we know well that Allah may forgive all sins except Shirk, i.e. those people before us were not but Mushrikoon, that is why they have to be destroyed by Allah because of their unforgivable crime of shirk.

Another important fact that Muslims should be aware of, Allah never commanded us to write these Man Made books of hadith, nor His prophet, however Iblis on the other hand must have been commanding the Muslims to do the opposite which is to write these Man Made books so they fall prays to the unforgivable crime of shirk, the main objective of Iblis is simply, that Allah will never forgive us, and this can only happen if we listen to Iblis and obey him to write these Man Made books of hadith, see these verses:

فَإِذَا قَرَأْتَ الْقُرْآنَ فَاسْتَعِذْ بِاللَّهِ مِنَ الشَّيْطَانِ الرَّجِيمِ (98)
So when you read the Quran, seek refuge in Allah from the pelted devil.
[Al Quran ; 16:98]

إِنَّهُ لَيْسَ لَهُ سُلْطَانٌ عَلَى الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَلَىٰ رَبِّهِمْ يَتَوَكَّلُونَ (99)
Indeed, he has no authority over those who have believed and rely upon their Lord.
[Al Quran ; 16:99]

إِنَّمَا سُلْطَانُهُ عَلَى الَّذِينَ يَتَوَلَّوْنَهُ وَالَّذِينَ هُمْ بِهِ مُشْرِكُونَ (100)
His authority is only over those who take him as a guardian and those who are through him polytheists.
[Al Quran ; 16:100]

-> See how Allah started those 3 verses by telling us what to do when we read Quran, not when we read the Man Made books of rubbish hadith: when you read the Quran, seek refuge in Allah from the pelted devil. This pelted devil will have no power or authority over the ones who only rely upon Allah for everything including guidance, see: Indeed, he has no authority over those who have believed and rely upon their Lord. Certainly not those who rely upon Man Made piles of contradicting rubbish of crap called hadith, as for those, they indeed worship Iblis by obeying him when he commanded them to write these Man Made of rubbish hadith, see: His authority is only over those who take him as a guardian and those who are through him polytheists. Indeed, through him they are Mushrikoon by obeying his commands which have to be the opposite to Allah�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s commands. See this verse:

أَلَمْ أَعْهَدْ إِلَيْكُمْ يَا بَنِي آدَمَ أَنْ لَا تَعْبُدُوا الشَّيْطَانَ ۖ إِنَّهُ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ مُبِينٌ (60)
Did I not enjoin you, O sons of Adam, that you should not worship the devil, (for) indeed, he is for you an obvious enemy.
[Al Quran ; 36:60]

-> See how Allah is warning all the people from Adam that we should never worship the devil: Did I not enjoin you, O sons of Adam, that you should not worship the devil, the mater of fact remains intact, that those who obey Iblis whose commands should always be the opposite to Allah commands are nothing but worshippers of Iblis. Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s move on to the next set of hadith from that book.
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10- Abdullah Ibn Omar:

عن سعيد بن جبير قال: كتب إلي أهل الكوفة مسايل ألقي فيها ابن عمر، فلقيته، فسألته من الكتاب؛ ولو علم أن معي كتاباً، لكانت الفيصل فيما بيني وبينه
Saeed Ibn Jabir said: The people of Al-Kofah received written questions for which Ibn Omar answered, one day I met him and asked him from what I have written in the book I have (without telling him that I have it in a written book), as had he known that I have a book, it would have been the end between us.

Abdullah Ibn Omar suppose to be the one who narrated hadith more than Abu Hurairah, the reason for that as explained by Abu Hurairah was the fact that Abdullah was writing the hadith while Abu Hurairah did not write it, see this hadith from Sahih Bukhari Man Made book:

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Abu Hurairah said: No one of the companions of the prophet is narrating more hadith than me except Abudallah Ibn Omar, because he was writing it and I did not.

How funny, so Abdullah Ibn Omar would have gone nuts and severed his relation with Saeed Ibn Jabir if he had found out that Saeed wrote his hadith, yet Ibn Omar was writing his own hadith himself as documented by Bukhari and alleged by Abu Hurairah.

What is more revolting than the above contradiction is the following contradiction, Abu Hurairah just told us that Ibn Omar was # 1 hadith narrator, the one who narrated more hadith than even Abu Hurairah, yet we are told in Ibn Magih Man Made book that someone accompanied Ibn Omar for a year in which Ibn Omar never told a single hadith about the prophet, see:

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Al Shubi said: I have accompanied Ibn Omar for a year and I never heard him transferring any hadith that was said by the prophet.

But Abu Hurairah just alleged in Bukhari Man Made book that Ibn Omar was the # 1 hadith narrator who narrated more hadith than Abu Hurairah himself. Yeh, I get it, Ibn Omar was taking a year long holiday without pay. What you will find to be even funnier, but revolting at the same time, is the following contradiction:

We read earlier in point #8 that no one from the companions of the prophet narrated more hadith than Abu Hurairah, see:

Saeed Ibn Abi Al-Hasan said: There was no one from the companions of the prophet who narrated more hadith than Abi Hurairah.

Yet we have Abu Hurairah telling us in here that Abdullah Ibn Omar narrated more hadith than him.

What a load of non sense and contradictions man, these contradictions make me sick? Well, this is exactly what I am talking about, if you put all these Man Made books together and start cross referencing them, you most likely will end up very confused or you just drop the whole fukin thing in the toilet and then flush it.

With all these conflicting and contradicting accounts while al Mushrikoon insisting on upholding them, you should end up with numerous sects and ideologies, because you cannot accept them all, you have to accept some while rejecting the ones contradicting what you accepted. On the other hand we should also have those who accepted what was rejected by others and rejected what was accepted by them. As I said no group can accept all these alleged and conflicting accounts together, this should result in numerous sects, divisions and ideologies; even within the same sect, like the Sunni sect, they have 4 different Mazhabs (religious ways) based on Man Made books by 4 different humans, each Mazhab followers of those is rejoicing with their own Man Made crap while caring less about the others. Between the different sects though, the war between their followers is far more dangerous and hostile, like the war between the Sunni and Shia sects�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?? followers, they reached a level of hostility and hatred that they bomb and kill each other including women and children inside their mosques which are suppose to be places to only worship Allah. See these verses:

فَأَقِمْ وَجْهَكَ لِلدِّينِ حَنِيفًا ۚ فِطْرَتَ اللَّهِ الَّتِي فَطَرَ النَّاسَ عَلَيْهَا ۚ لَا تَبْدِيلَ لِخَلْقِ اللَّهِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الدِّينُ الْقَيِّمُ وَلَٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ (30)
So set your face toward the religion, upright. The nature (made) by Allah upon which He has originated the people; there is no alteration of the creation of Allah. That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.
[Al Quran ; 30:30]

مُنِيبِينَ إِلَيْهِ وَاتَّقُوهُ وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَلَا تَكُونُوا مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ (31)
Turning to Him, and fear Him and establish prayer and be not of the polytheists.
[Al Quran ; 30:31]

مِنَ الَّذِينَ فَرَّقُوا دِينَهُمْ وَكَانُوا شِيَعًا ۖ كُلُّ حِزْبٍ بِمَا لَدَيْهِمْ فَرِحُونَ (32)
Of those who have divided their religion and became sects; every party is, with what they have, rejoicing.
[Al Quran ; 30:32]

-> See: So set your face toward the religion, upright. Turning to Him, and fear Him and establish prayer and be not of the polytheists. Of those who have divided their religion and became sects; every party is, with what they have, rejoicing.

How compelling. A perfect description describing the confused and Mushrik Muslims who want to set their Nijis faces toward the Man Made crap books of conflicting and rubbish hadith in deviation from the straight path of Allah and in disobedience to the prophet command not to write anything he said except Quran. Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s move on.
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11- Other followers:

حدثنا يعقوب بن عبد الرحمن عن أبيه، قال: حضرت عبيد الله بن عبد الله، دخل على عمر بن العزيز، فأجلس قوماً يكتبون ما يقول؛ فلما أراد أن يقوم، قال له عمر صنعنا شيئاً قال وما هو يا ابن عبد العزيز? قال كتبنا ما قلت قال وأين هو? قال: فجيء به وفخرِقَ
Yaqoub Ibn Abdul Rahman said that his father said: I was present when Ubaidaalah Ibn Abdullah entered upon Omar Ibn Abdul Aziz who made some people to sit down and write what Ubaidaalah said.

When Ubaidaalah wanted to leave, Omar Ibn Abdul Aziz told him: We have done something

Ubaidaalah replied: And what was that, O Ibn Abdul Aziz?

Omar Ibn Abdul Aziz replied: We have written what you said.

Ubaidaalah replied: And where is that?

And it was said that they brought to him what they wrote, and Ubaidaalah destroyed it.

Omar Ibn Abdul Aziz is considered by almost Muslims to be the fifth guided ruler who ruled years and years after the prophet�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s death; you can see that the same expression we read in Muawiah hadith (the one WB disputed) is used here describing a man in power (Omar Ibn Abdul Aziz) upon whom some people entered. As well we read the same thing that Omar Ibn Abdul Aziz commanded a few people to write what Ubaidaalah Ibn Abdullah said of hadith, exactly as Muawiah did when he heard the hadith from Zaid Ibn Thabit. The difference between the two allegations though is that Omar Ibn Abdul Aziz admitted to Ubaidaalah that they wrote what he said of hadith, so Ubaidaalah asked him to bring it in, then it was destroyed. It is 100% that the above incident happened years and years after the prophet�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s death. Therefore WB and his Mushrik pals are lying to us when they told us that the prophet allowed writing his hadith later on in his life.

عن محمد قال: قلت لعبيدة أكتب منك ما أسمع? قال لا قلت وجدت كتاباً أنظر فيه? قال لا .
A guy named Muhammed said: I said to Ubaidah Ibn Al-Jarrah: Can write what I hear from you?

Ubaidah Ibn Al-Jarrah replied: No

The guy named Muhammed said: But I see myself looking at a written book?

Ubaidah Ibn Al-Jarrah replied: No

حدثني المنذر بن نافع قال: سمعت إدريس بن أبي إدريس يقول: قال لي أبي أتكتب شيئاً مما تسمع مني? فقلت نعم قال فأتني به قال فأتيته به فخرقه.
Al-Munzir Ibn Nafee said: I heard Idris Ibn Abi Idris saying: My father told me, do you write anything of what you hear from me?

Idris replied: Yes

Al-Munzir Ibn Nafee said: Bring it to me

Idris said: So I brought it t him, and he destroyed it.

العلاء بن زبر عن القاسم بن محمد أنه كره كتابة الحديث.
Al-Alaa Ibn Zubur said that Al-Qasim Ibn Muhammed said that indeed he despised writing hadith.

عن إبراهيم قال: كنت أكتب عند عبيدة فقال لا تخلدن عني كتاباً .
A guy named Ibrahim said: I was with Ubaidah Ibn Al-Jarrah and was writing (his hadith), so Ubaidah said to me:

Do not make a written book from me eternal.

But we all know that al Mushrikoon from among the Muslims made the Man Made rubbish books of Bukhari and Muslim eternals.

حدثنا سفيان قال: قيل لعمرو: إن سفيان يكتب؛ فاضطجع وبكى وقال أحرج علي من يكتب عني قال سفيان: وما كتبت عنه شيئاً؛ كنا نحفظ .
Suffian said: It was said to Amr that Suffian was writing, so Amr sat down and cried the said: Bring to me those who wrote from me.

Then Suffian denied that he was writing and confirmed that they were only memorising (hadith).

حدثنا حماد عن حميدان بكر بن عبد الله بعث إلى أبي العالية أن يكتب له حديثاً. قال: فجاء أبو العالية، فقال مرحباً بك فقال لو كنت أكتب لأحد، لكتبته لك فحدثه حتى حفظه.
Hammad said: Humaidan Bakr Ibn Abdullah asked Abi Al-Aaliah to write for him a hadith.

Abu Al-Aaliah came to him, so Humaidan greeted him

Then Abu Al-Aaliah said to him: If I was writing hadith, I would have written it for you. Then he kept narrating to him until Humaidan memorised it.

This clearly means that Abu Al-Aaliah never wrote hadith from anyone in a book.

عن الضحاك قال: لا تتخذوا للحديث كراريس ككراريس المصاحف
Al-Dahhak said: Do not make for the hadith written books like the written books of the scriptures.

حدثنا حسن عن ليث أنه كره الكراريس
Hasan said that Layth despised the written books (of hadith).

عن إبراهيم قال: كانوا يكرهون الكتاب .
A guy named Ibrahim said that they were despising to write (hadith).

عن إبراهيم أنه كره أن تكتب الأحاديث في الكراريس.
A guy named Ibrahim said: Indeed he despised writing hadith in books.

حدثنا إسحاق بن إسماعيل الطالقاني قال: قلت لجرير يعني ابن عبد الحميد، كان منصور يكره كتاب الحديث? قال: نعم منصور ومغيرة والأعمش كانوا يكرهون كتاب الحديث.
Ishaq Ibn Ismael Al-Talqani said: I told Jarir Ibn Abuld Hamid, did Mansour despise writing hadith?

Jarir replied: Yes, Mansour and Mughairah and Al-Aamash were all despising writing hadith.

عن ابن عون عن محمد كان يكره الكتاب
Ibn Awin said that a guy named Muhammed used to despise writing (hadith).

ابن عون: لم يكتب أبو بكر ولا عمر
Ibn Awin said: Abu Bakr did not write (hadith) nor Omar Ibn Al-Khattab wrote (hadith).

Can you see that Abu Bakr and Omar never wrote hadith

And that was how all those early Muslims, of whom some were living during the time of Muhammed, and others who were born years after the prophet died, obeyed the prophet in not writing anything he said except Quran.
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12- Explaining the reason of despising the writing of hadith:

خوف الانكباب على درس غير القرآن
The fear that the people will only study these books and leave the Quran behind.

The reason given by them above should be permanent (logically speaking), because if they worried that the early Muslims will indulge themselves in studying these Man Made books instead of Quran, then it has to be valid for the late Muslims too, it is not like fuk the late Muslims and let them indulge in studying these Man Made books of rubbish hadith and ignore the Quran. But as we should know by now, it is all part of Iblis plan to make most Muslims mushrikoon, and it certainly worked, most of the late Muslims starting from about 150 years after the prophet died till now do nothing but indulge their Mushrik arses in studying and promoting these Man Made rubbish of books while ignoring the Quran. Well, I have bad news for those Mushrikoon, the prophet will testify against them that they indeed ignored the Quran, see:

وَقَالَ الرَّسُولُ يَا رَبِّ إِنَّ قَوْمِي اتَّخَذُوا هَٰذَا الْقُرْآنَ مَهْجُورًا (30)
And the messenger will say: My Lord! Indeed, my people have taken this Quran as an abandoned.
[Al Quran ; 25:30]

Wake up Mushrikoon and only follow what Allah sent down to you, following what you inherited from your sinful parents and grand parents will take you no where but closer to a pit in hell; see these verses:

وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمُ اتَّبِعُوا مَا أَنزَلَ اللّهُ قَالُواْ بَلْ نَتَّبِعُ مَا أَلْفَيْنَا عَلَيْهِ آبَاءنَا أَوَلَوْ كَانَ آبَاؤُهُمْ لاَ يَعْقِلُونَ شَيْئاً وَلاَ يَهْتَدُونَ (170)
And when it is said to them: Follow what Allah has sent down, they say: Rather, we should follow that to which we are accustomed by our fathers. Even though their fathers do not understand a thing nor do they follow the guidance.
[Al Quran ; 2:170]

وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمُ اتَّبِعُوا مَا أَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ قَالُوا بَلْ نَتَّبِعُ مَا وَجَدْنَا عَلَيْهِ آبَاءَنَا ۚ أَوَلَوْ كَانَ الشَّيْطَانُ يَدْعُوهُمْ إِلَىٰ عَذَابِ السَّعِيرِ (21)
And when it is said to them: Follow what Allah has sent down, they say: Rather, we should follow that upon which we found our fathers. Even though the devil is inviting them to the torture of the blaze.
[Al Quran ; 31:21]
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13- Omar Ibn Al-Khattab:

عن عروة بن الزبير عن أبيه عروة قال: أراد عمر بن الخطاب أن يكتب السنن، فاستشار فيها أصحاب رسول الله صلى الله عليه، فأشار عامتهم بذلك عليه؛ فمكث عمر شهراً يستخير الله في ذلك شاكاً فيه؛ ثم أصبح يوماً قد عزم الله له، فقال: إني كنت ذكرت لكم من كتاب السنن ما قد علمتم؛ ثم تذكرت، فإذا ناس من أهل الكتاب قد كتبوا مع كتاب الله كتاباً ألبسوا عليه، وتركوا كتاب الله، وإني والله لا ألبس كتاب الله بشيء أبداً ؛ فترك عمر كتاب السنة.
Arwah Ibn Al-Zobair said that his father Arwah said: Omar Ibn Al-Khattab once wanted to write the sunnah, so he took the advice of most of the companions of the messenger of Allah. They advised him that he should do it.

So Omar stayed for a month seeking the guidance of Allah to do it or not as he was doubting it. One day he waked up and it seems that Allah guided him to what to do, so Omar Ibn Al-Khattab said:

Indeed, I mentioned to you that I desired to write the sunnah of what you have already known, then I remembered the people of the book before you who wrote a book next to the book of Allah and got confused therein and left the book of Allah. And indeed, by Allah, I will not confuse the book of Allah with anything, ever.

So Omar rejected writing the sunnah in books.

Now, what Omar said means FOREVER not during his time only, see how he said it: وإني والله لا ألبس كتاب الله بشيء أبداً , i.e. And indeed, by Allah, I will not confuse the book of Allah with anything, ever.

So tell me mister Mushrik WB, how come Khalifah Omar Ibn Al-Khattab refused to write the Sunnah (he even referred to it with this name instead of hadith) while you along with your associates lied to us and told us that the prophet allowed writing Sunnah/Hadith later on in his life and before his death?

Well, the answer is simple, the prophet never allowed his people to write anything he said but Quran, he even deleted what they wrote and told them he is only a human, remember this from your Man Made book that we discussed earlier:

عن أبي هريرة قال: بلغ رسول الله أن ناساً قد كتبوا حديثه، فصعد المنبر، فحمد الله وأثنى عليه ثم قال ما هذه الكتب التي بلغني أنكم قد كتبتم، إِنما أنا بشر. من كان عنده منها شيء فليأت به ؛ فجمعناها فأخرجت
Abi Hurairah said: The messenger of Allah was informed that some people wrote his hadith, so he climbed into the stand then praised and thanked Allah and said:

What are these books that you have written? Indeed, I am only a human, whoever has of these books should bring it in.

So we collected it and destroyed it.

Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s move on and see what else Omar did:

عن خالد بن عرفطة قال كنت جالساً عند عمر، إذ أتي برجل من عبد القيس، مسكنه بالسوس؛ فقال له عمر أنت فلان بن فلان العبدي? قال نعم قال وأنت النازل بالسوس? قال نعم فضربه بقناة معه؛ فقال الرجل ما لي يا أمير المؤمنين? فقال له عمر: اجلس فجلس فقرأ عليه بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم، الر، تلك آيات الكتاب المبين، إنا أنزلناه قرآناً عربياً لعلكم تعقلون، نحن نقص عليك أحسن القصص إلى لمن الغافلين فقرأها عليه ثلاثاً، وضربه ثلاثاً، فقال له الرجل ما لي يا أمير المؤمنين? فقال أنت الذي نسخت كتاب دانيال? قال مرني بأمرك أتبعه قال انطلق فامحه بالحميم والصوف الأبيض؛ ثم لا تقرأه ولا تقريه أحداً من الناس؛ فلئن بلغني عنك إنك قرأته أو أقرأته أحداً من الناس، لأنهنك عقوبة ثم قال له أجلس فجلس بين يديه فقال: انطلقت أنا، فانتسخت كتاباً من أهل الكتاب، ثم جئت به في أديم، فقال لي رسول الله صلى الله عليه ما هذا في يدك يا عمر قال قلت يا رسول الله كتاب انتسخته، لنزداد به علماً إلى علمنا فغضب رسول الله صلى الله عليه، حتى احمرت وجنتاه، ثم نودي بالصلاة جامعة؛ فقالت الأنصار: أغضب نبيكم صلى الله عليه: السلاح، السلاح ، فجاؤا حتى أحدقوا بمنبر رسول الله صلى الله عليه، فقال: يا أيها الناس إني أوتيت جوامع الكلم وخواتيمه، واختصر لي اختصاراً، ولقد أتيتكم بها بيضاء. نقية، فلا تتهوكوا، ولا يقربكم المتهوكون .
Khalid Ibn Arfattah said: I was sitting with Omar Ibn Al-Khattab, when he brought in a guy from Abdulqais whose house was in the village of Soos, and then Omar said to him:

Are you that guy from Abdulqais? The guy said: Yes

Omar said to him: And you live in Soos? The guy said: Yes

So Omar hit him with a stick. The guy said: What I have done wrong O Amir Al-Mumineen (Khalifah)?

Omar said to him: Sit down. Then Omar read the following Quran verses three times:

الر ۚ تِلْكَ آيَاتُ الْكِتَابِ الْمُبِينِ (1)
Alif Lam Ra. These are the signs of the manifest book.
[Al Quran ; 12:1]

إِنَّا أَنْزَلْنَاهُ قُرْآنًا عَرَبِيًّا لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ (2)
Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Quran that perhaps you will understand.
[Al Quran ; 12:2]

نَحْنُ نَقُصُّ عَلَيْكَ أَحْسَنَ الْقَصَصِ بِمَا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ هَٰذَا الْقُرْآنَ وَإِنْ كُنْتَ مِنْ قَبْلِهِ لَمِنَ الْغَافِلِينَ (3)
We relate to you the best of the stories in what We have revealed to you of this Quran; and indeed, you were before it among the unaware.
[Al Quran ; 12:3]

Then Omar hit the guy three times. The guy said to Omar: What I have done wrong O Amir Al-Mumineen (Khalifah)?

Omar said to the guy: Aren�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t you the one who translated the book of Daniel (to Arabic). The guy replied: Command me and I will certainly do what you want.

Omar said to the guy: Go and destroy it and never read it to the people or get it near them; and if I get informed that you read it or made anyone to read it, I will humiliate you with punishment.

Then Omar asked the guy to sit down, and told him: One day I got a book translated from the books of the people of the book, then went to the messenger of Allah, the messenger of Allah asked me about it, so I told him it is a translated book from the books of the people of the book. The prophet got very angry until his cheeks turned red.

The messenger then stood on the stand and said the following:

O people! I was given the complete collection of the words and their ending, it was been briefed to me in excellent briefing, and I came to you with it while it is white and pure. So do not be reckless and never allow reckless ones to come near you.

While the matter above was about writing/translating the books of the people of the book, we cannot overlook what the prophet said to the people about the Quran in the above allegation:

The messenger of Allah said: O people! I was given the complete collection of the words and their ending, it was been briefed to me in excellent briefing, and I came to you with it while it is white and pure. So do not be reckless and never allow reckless ones to come near you.

How beautiful these descriptions about the Quran: I was given the complete collection of the words and their endings, it was been briefed to me with excellent briefing, and I came to you with it while it is white and pure. So do not be reckless and never allow reckless ones to come near you.

In no way these Man Made evil books of crap hadith are:

1- Complete collection of the words and their endings.
2- Briefed with excellent briefing.
3- White.
4- Pure.

The Man Made rubbish books of crap hadith are not but:

1- Complete collection of confusion and non sense.
2- Unrealistically lengthy and horrible to read and understand by average people.
3- Black.
4- Impure.

See WB, it has to be as iffo told you, it is either you declare these books as false or you choose hell to be your destination.

Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s read a great story about Omar Ibn Al-Khattab when he wanted to filter out all al Mushrikoon:

حدثنا القاسم بن محمد أن عمر بن الخطاب بلغه أنه قد ظهر في أيدي الناس كتب، فاستنكرها، وكرهها، وقال: أيها الناس، أنه قد بلغني أنه قد ظهرت في أيديكم كتب؛ فأحبها إلى الله أعدلها وأقومها، فلا يبقين أحد عنده كتاب، إلا أتاني به، فأرى فيه رأيي قال فظنوا أنه يريد أن ينظر فيها، ويقومها على أمر لا يكون فيه اختلاف؛ فأتوه بكتبهم فأحرقها بالنار ثم قال: أمنية كأمنية أهل الكتاب
Al-Qasim Ibn Muhammed said: Omar Ibn Al-Khattab was informed that some books started to surface between the people, so he denied and despised them then said:

O people! I was informed that some books appeared between your hands, and the most loved of them to Allah would be the most just and fair, so no one leaves a book with him except he should bring to me so I see what is in there and give my opinion. (Omar was only tricking them)

The people thought wrong that Omar wanted to look at the books and authenticate them in order to remove disagreement between these books. The people brought to Omar all their books and he just burnt them all, and then said:

You just had the desire (tendency) like the desire of the people of the book.

How awesome by that man, I have to admit Omar is the most one I admire from the companions of the prophet, I am sort like him slightly, I do not mock around with al mushrikoon, I confront them in an aggressive way to filter them out and destroy them in the most aggressive way possible.

What I like about the above great story is how Omar quickly planned to trick the people in thinking that their Man Made books of rubbish hadith will be considered, but only after he checks them personally and give his opinion, then announcing who had the best book; consequently the owner of the winning book will be the most loved by Allah, see how he said it to them:

، أنه قد بلغني أنه قد ظهرت في أيديكم كتب؛ فأحبها إلى الله أعدلها وأقومها، فلا يبقين أحد عنده كتاب، إلا أتاني به، فأرى فيه رأيي

i.e.

I was informed that some books appeared between your hands, and the most loved of them to Allah would be the most just and fair, so no one leaves a book with him except he should bring to me so I see what is in there and give my opinion.

The people were fooled of course, was easy upon the very smart Omar especially that most of those wannabe Mushrikoon are already proved their dumbness and stupidity with their clear tendency to shirk. This allowed Omar to make sure that every single Man Made book will be brought in (to win the huge prize of the love of Allah), which meant that Omar made sure that every single Man Made book of theirs is brought in to be destroyed REGARDLESS of any good stories therein.

عن يحيى بن جعدة أن عمر بن الخطاب أراد أن يكتب السنة، ثم بدا له أن لا يكتبها؛ ثم كتب في الأمصار من كان عنده منها شيء فليمحه.
Yahya Ibn Jaadah said: Omar Ibn Al-Khattab desired to write the sunnah, then it became apparent to him that he should not, then he wrote on public notes to inform anyone who has written sunnah that it should be deleted.

Omar even posted public notices to make sure all Man Made books of sunnah were destroyed.

All the above stories about Omar happened when Omar was Khalifah, i.e. years after the prophet�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s death; a grandmother of all slams exposing the clear cut lies and confusion of al mushrikoon.
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10- Abdullah Ibn Omar:

عن سعيد بن جبير قال: كتب إلي أهل الكوفة مسايل ألقي فيها ابن عمر، فلقيته، فسألته من الكتاب؛ ولو علم أن معي كتاباً، لكانت الفيصل فيما بيني وبينه
Saeed Ibn Jabir said: The people of Al-Kofah received written questions for which Ibn Omar answered, one day I met him and asked him from what I have written in the book I have (without telling him that I have it in a written book), as had he known that I have a book, it would have been the end between us.

Abdullah Ibn Omar suppose to be the one who narrated hadith more than Abu Hurairah, the reason for that as explained by Abu Hurairah was the fact that Abdullah was writing the hadith while Abu Hurairah did not write it, see this hadith from Sahih Bukhari Man Made book:

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Abu Hurairah said: No one of the companions of the prophet is narrating more hadith than me except Abudallah Ibn Omar, because he was writing it and I did not.

How funny, so Abdullah Ibn Omar would have gone nuts and severed his relation with Saeed Ibn Jabir if he had found out that Saeed wrote his hadith, yet Ibn Omar was writing his own hadith himself as documented by Bukhari and alleged by Abu Hurairah.

What is more revolting than the above contradiction is the following contradiction, Abu Hurairah just told us that Ibn Omar was # 1 hadith narrator, the one who narrated more hadith than even Abu Hurairah, yet we are told in Ibn Magih Man Made book that someone accompanied Ibn Omar for a year in which Ibn Omar never told a single hadith about the prophet, see:

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Al Shubi said: I have accompanied Ibn Omar for a year and I never heard him transferring any hadith that was said by the prophet.

But Abu Hurairah just alleged in Bukhari Man Made book that Ibn Omar was the # 1 hadith narrator who narrated more hadith than Abu Hurairah himself. Yeh, I get it, Ibn Omar was taking a year long holiday without pay. What you will find to be even funnier, but revolting at the same time, is the following contradiction:

We read earlier in point #8 that no one from the companions of the prophet narrated more hadith than Abu Hurairah, see:

Saeed Ibn Abi Al-Hasan said: There was no one from the companions of the prophet who narrated more hadith than Abi Hurairah.

Yet we have Abu Hurairah telling us in here that Abdullah Ibn Omar narrated more hadith than him.

What a load of non sense and contradictions man, these contradictions make me sick? Well, this is exactly what I am talking about, if you put all these Man Made books together and start cross referencing them, you most likely will end up very confused or you just drop the whole fukin thing in the toilet and then flush it.

With all these conflicting and contradicting accounts while al Mushrikoon insisting on upholding them, you should end up with numerous sects and ideologies, because you cannot accept them all, you have to accept some while rejecting the ones contradicting what you accepted. On the other hand we should also have those who accepted what was rejected by others and rejected what was accepted by them. As I said no group can accept all these alleged and conflicting accounts together, this should result in numerous sects, divisions and ideologies; even within the same sect, like the Sunni sect, they have 4 different Mazhabs (religious ways) based on Man Made books by 4 different humans, each Mazhab followers of those is rejoicing with their own Man Made crap while caring less about the others. Between the different sects though, the war between their followers is far more dangerous and hostile, like the war between the Sunni and Shia sects�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?? followers, they reached a level of hostility and hatred that they bomb and kill each other including women and children inside their mosques which are suppose to be places to only worship Allah. See these verses:

فَأَقِمْ وَجْهَكَ لِلدِّينِ حَنِيفًا ۚ فِطْرَتَ اللَّهِ الَّتِي فَطَرَ النَّاسَ عَلَيْهَا ۚ لَا تَبْدِيلَ لِخَلْقِ اللَّهِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الدِّينُ الْقَيِّمُ وَلَٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ (30)
So set your face toward the religion, upright. The nature (made) by Allah upon which He has originated the people; there is no alteration of the creation of Allah. That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.
[Al Quran ; 30:30]

مُنِيبِينَ إِلَيْهِ وَاتَّقُوهُ وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَلَا تَكُونُوا مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ (31)
Turning to Him, and fear Him and establish prayer and be not of the polytheists.
[Al Quran ; 30:31]

مِنَ الَّذِينَ فَرَّقُوا دِينَهُمْ وَكَانُوا شِيَعًا ۖ كُلُّ حِزْبٍ بِمَا لَدَيْهِمْ فَرِحُونَ (32)
Of those who have divided their religion and became sects; every party is, with what they have, rejoicing.
[Al Quran ; 30:32]

-> See: So set your face toward the religion, upright. Turning to Him, and fear Him and establish prayer and be not of the polytheists. Of those who have divided their religion and became sects; every party is, with what they have, rejoicing.

How compelling. A perfect description describing the confused and Mushrik Muslims who want to set their Nijis faces toward the Man Made crap books of conflicting and rubbish hadith in deviation from the straight path of Allah and in disobedience to the prophet command not to write anything he said except Quran. Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s move on.
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11- Other followers:

حدثنا يعقوب بن عبد الرحمن عن أبيه، قال: حضرت عبيد الله بن عبد الله، دخل على عمر بن العزيز، فأجلس قوماً يكتبون ما يقول؛ فلما أراد أن يقوم، قال له عمر صنعنا شيئاً قال وما هو يا ابن عبد العزيز? قال كتبنا ما قلت قال وأين هو? قال: فجيء به وفخرِقَ
Yaqoub Ibn Abdul Rahman said that his father said: I was present when Ubaidaalah Ibn Abdullah entered upon Omar Ibn Abdul Aziz who made some people to sit down and write what Ubaidaalah said.

When Ubaidaalah wanted to leave, Omar Ibn Abdul Aziz told him: We have done something

Ubaidaalah replied: And what was that, O Ibn Abdul Aziz?

Omar Ibn Abdul Aziz replied: We have written what you said.

Ubaidaalah replied: And where is that?

And it was said that they brought to him what they wrote, and Ubaidaalah destroyed it.

Omar Ibn Abdul Aziz is considered by almost Muslims to be the fifth guided ruler who ruled years and years after the prophet�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s death; you can see that the same expression we read in Muawiah hadith (the one WB disputed) is used here describing a man in power (Omar Ibn Abdul Aziz) upon whom some people entered. As well we read the same thing that Omar Ibn Abdul Aziz commanded a few people to write what Ubaidaalah Ibn Abdullah said of hadith, exactly as Muawiah did when he heard the hadith from Zaid Ibn Thabit. The difference between the two allegations though is that Omar Ibn Abdul Aziz admitted to Ubaidaalah that they wrote what he said of hadith, so Ubaidaalah asked him to bring it in, then it was destroyed. It is 100% that the above incident happened years and years after the prophet�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s death. Therefore WB and his Mushrik pals are lying to us when they told us that the prophet allowed writing his hadith later on in his life.

عن محمد قال: قلت لعبيدة أكتب منك ما أسمع? قال لا قلت وجدت كتاباً أنظر فيه? قال لا .
A guy named Muhammed said: I said to Ubaidah Ibn Al-Jarrah: Can write what I hear from you?

Ubaidah Ibn Al-Jarrah replied: No

The guy named Muhammed said: But I see myself looking at a written book?

Ubaidah Ibn Al-Jarrah replied: No

حدثني المنذر بن نافع قال: سمعت إدريس بن أبي إدريس يقول: قال لي أبي أتكتب شيئاً مما تسمع مني? فقلت نعم قال فأتني به قال فأتيته به فخرقه.
Al-Munzir Ibn Nafee said: I heard Idris Ibn Abi Idris saying: My father told me, do you write anything of what you hear from me?

Idris replied: Yes

Al-Munzir Ibn Nafee said: Bring it to me

Idris said: So I brought it t him, and he destroyed it.

العلاء بن زبر عن القاسم بن محمد أنه كره كتابة الحديث.
Al-Alaa Ibn Zubur said that Al-Qasim Ibn Muhammed said that indeed he despised writing hadith.

عن إبراهيم قال: كنت أكتب عند عبيدة فقال لا تخلدن عني كتاباً .
A guy named Ibrahim said: I was with Ubaidah Ibn Al-Jarrah and was writing (his hadith), so Ubaidah said to me:

Do not make a written book from me eternal.

But we all know that al Mushrikoon from among the Muslims made the Man Made rubbish books of Bukhari and Muslim eternals.

حدثنا سفيان قال: قيل لعمرو: إن سفيان يكتب؛ فاضطجع وبكى وقال أحرج علي من يكتب عني قال سفيان: وما كتبت عنه شيئاً؛ كنا نحفظ .
Suffian said: It was said to Amr that Suffian was writing, so Amr sat down and cried the said: Bring to me those who wrote from me.

Then Suffian denied that he was writing and confirmed that they were only memorising (hadith).

حدثنا حماد عن حميدان بكر بن عبد الله بعث إلى أبي العالية أن يكتب له حديثاً. قال: فجاء أبو العالية، فقال مرحباً بك فقال لو كنت أكتب لأحد، لكتبته لك فحدثه حتى حفظه.
Hammad said: Humaidan Bakr Ibn Abdullah asked Abi Al-Aaliah to write for him a hadith.

Abu Al-Aaliah came to him, so Humaidan greeted him

Then Abu Al-Aaliah said to him: If I was writing hadith, I would have written it for you. Then he kept narrating to him until Humaidan memorised it.

This clearly means that Abu Al-Aaliah never wrote hadith from anyone in a book.

عن الضحاك قال: لا تتخذوا للحديث كراريس ككراريس المصاحف
Al-Dahhak said: Do not make for the hadith written books like the written books of the scriptures.

حدثنا حسن عن ليث أنه كره الكراريس
Hasan said that Layth despised the written books (of hadith).

عن إبراهيم قال: كانوا يكرهون الكتاب .
A guy named Ibrahim said that they were despising to write (hadith).

عن إبراهيم أنه كره أن تكتب الأحاديث في الكراريس.
A guy named Ibrahim said: Indeed he despised writing hadith in books.

حدثنا إسحاق بن إسماعيل الطالقاني قال: قلت لجرير يعني ابن عبد الحميد، كان منصور يكره كتاب الحديث? قال: نعم منصور ومغيرة والأعمش كانوا يكرهون كتاب الحديث.
Ishaq Ibn Ismael Al-Talqani said: I told Jarir Ibn Abuld Hamid, did Mansour despise writing hadith?

Jarir replied: Yes, Mansour and Mughairah and Al-Aamash were all despising writing hadith.

عن ابن عون عن محمد كان يكره الكتاب
Ibn Awin said that a guy named Muhammed used to despise writing (hadith).

ابن عون: لم يكتب أبو بكر ولا عمر
Ibn Awin said: Abu Bakr did not write (hadith) nor Omar Ibn Al-Khattab wrote (hadith).

Can you see that Abu Bakr and Omar never wrote hadith

And that was how all those early Muslims, of whom some were living during the time of Muhammed, and others who were born years after the prophet died, obeyed the prophet in not writing anything he said except Quran.
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12- Explaining the reason of despising the writing of hadith:

خوف الانكباب على درس غير القرآن
The fear that the people will only study these books and leave the Quran behind.

The reason given by them above should be permanent (logically speaking), because if they worried that the early Muslims will indulge themselves in studying these Man Made books instead of Quran, then it has to be valid for the late Muslims too, it is not like fuk the late Muslims and let them indulge in studying these Man Made books of rubbish hadith and ignore the Quran. But as we should know by now, it is all part of Iblis plan to make most Muslims mushrikoon, and it certainly worked, most of the late Muslims starting from about 150 years after the prophet died till now do nothing but indulge their Mushrik arses in studying and promoting these Man Made rubbish of books while ignoring the Quran. Well, I have bad news for those Mushrikoon, the prophet will testify against them that they indeed ignored the Quran, see:

وَقَالَ الرَّسُولُ يَا رَبِّ إِنَّ قَوْمِي اتَّخَذُوا هَٰذَا الْقُرْآنَ مَهْجُورًا (30)
And the messenger will say: My Lord! Indeed, my people have taken this Quran as an abandoned.
[Al Quran ; 25:30]

Wake up Mushrikoon and only follow what Allah sent down to you, following what you inherited from your sinful parents and grand parents will take you no where but closer to a pit in hell; see these verses:

وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمُ اتَّبِعُوا مَا أَنزَلَ اللّهُ قَالُواْ بَلْ نَتَّبِعُ مَا أَلْفَيْنَا عَلَيْهِ آبَاءنَا أَوَلَوْ كَانَ آبَاؤُهُمْ لاَ يَعْقِلُونَ شَيْئاً وَلاَ يَهْتَدُونَ (170)
And when it is said to them: Follow what Allah has sent down, they say: Rather, we should follow that to which we are accustomed by our fathers. Even though their fathers do not understand a thing nor do they follow the guidance.
[Al Quran ; 2:170]

وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمُ اتَّبِعُوا مَا أَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ قَالُوا بَلْ نَتَّبِعُ مَا وَجَدْنَا عَلَيْهِ آبَاءَنَا ۚ أَوَلَوْ كَانَ الشَّيْطَانُ يَدْعُوهُمْ إِلَىٰ عَذَابِ السَّعِيرِ (21)
And when it is said to them: Follow what Allah has sent down, they say: Rather, we should follow that upon which we found our fathers. Even though the devil is inviting them to the torture of the blaze.
[Al Quran ; 31:21]
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13- Omar Ibn Al-Khattab:

عن عروة بن الزبير عن أبيه عروة قال: أراد عمر بن الخطاب أن يكتب السنن، فاستشار فيها أصحاب رسول الله صلى الله عليه، فأشار عامتهم بذلك عليه؛ فمكث عمر شهراً يستخير الله في ذلك شاكاً فيه؛ ثم أصبح يوماً قد عزم الله له، فقال: إني كنت ذكرت لكم من كتاب السنن ما قد علمتم؛ ثم تذكرت، فإذا ناس من أهل الكتاب قد كتبوا مع كتاب الله كتاباً ألبسوا عليه، وتركوا كتاب الله، وإني والله لا ألبس كتاب الله بشيء أبداً ؛ فترك عمر كتاب السنة.
Arwah Ibn Al-Zobair said that his father Arwah said: Omar Ibn Al-Khattab once wanted to write the sunnah, so he took the advice of most of the companions of the messenger of Allah. They advised him that he should do it.

So Omar stayed for a month seeking the guidance of Allah to do it or not as he was doubting it. One day he waked up and it seems that Allah guided him to what to do, so Omar Ibn Al-Khattab said:

Indeed, I mentioned to you that I desired to write the sunnah of what you have already known, then I remembered the people of the book before you who wrote a book next to the book of Allah and got confused therein and left the book of Allah. And indeed, by Allah, I will not confuse the book of Allah with anything, ever.

So Omar rejected writing the sunnah in books.

Now, what Omar said means FOREVER not during his time only, see how he said it: وإني والله لا ألبس كتاب الله بشيء أبداً , i.e. And indeed, by Allah, I will not confuse the book of Allah with anything, ever.

So tell me mister Mushrik WB, how come Khalifah Omar Ibn Al-Khattab refused to write the Sunnah (he even referred to it with this name instead of hadith) while you along with your associates lied to us and told us that the prophet allowed writing Sunnah/Hadith later on in his life and before his death?

Well, the answer is simple, the prophet never allowed his people to write anything he said but Quran, he even deleted what they wrote and told them he is only a human, remember this from your Man Made book that we discussed earlier:

عن أبي هريرة قال: بلغ رسول الله أن ناساً قد كتبوا حديثه، فصعد المنبر، فحمد الله وأثنى عليه ثم قال ما هذه الكتب التي بلغني أنكم قد كتبتم، إِنما أنا بشر. من كان عنده منها شيء فليأت به ؛ فجمعناها فأخرجت
Abi Hurairah said: The messenger of Allah was informed that some people wrote his hadith, so he climbed into the stand then praised and thanked Allah and said:

What are these books that you have written? Indeed, I am only a human, whoever has of these books should bring it in.

So we collected it and destroyed it.

Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s move on and see what else Omar did:

عن خالد بن عرفطة قال كنت جالساً عند عمر، إذ أتي برجل من عبد القيس، مسكنه بالسوس؛ فقال له عمر أنت فلان بن فلان العبدي? قال نعم قال وأنت النازل بالسوس? قال نعم فضربه بقناة معه؛ فقال الرجل ما لي يا أمير المؤمنين? فقال له عمر: اجلس فجلس فقرأ عليه بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم، الر، تلك آيات الكتاب المبين، إنا أنزلناه قرآناً عربياً لعلكم تعقلون، نحن نقص عليك أحسن القصص إلى لمن الغافلين فقرأها عليه ثلاثاً، وضربه ثلاثاً، فقال له الرجل ما لي يا أمير المؤمنين? فقال أنت الذي نسخت كتاب دانيال? قال مرني بأمرك أتبعه قال انطلق فامحه بالحميم والصوف الأبيض؛ ثم لا تقرأه ولا تقريه أحداً من الناس؛ فلئن بلغني عنك إنك قرأته أو أقرأته أحداً من الناس، لأنهنك عقوبة ثم قال له أجلس فجلس بين يديه فقال: انطلقت أنا، فانتسخت كتاباً من أهل الكتاب، ثم جئت به في أديم، فقال لي رسول الله صلى الله عليه ما هذا في يدك يا عمر قال قلت يا رسول الله كتاب انتسخته، لنزداد به علماً إلى علمنا فغضب رسول الله صلى الله عليه، حتى احمرت وجنتاه، ثم نودي بالصلاة جامعة؛ فقالت الأنصار: أغضب نبيكم صلى الله عليه: السلاح، السلاح ، فجاؤا حتى أحدقوا بمنبر رسول الله صلى الله عليه، فقال: يا أيها الناس إني أوتيت جوامع الكلم وخواتيمه، واختصر لي اختصاراً، ولقد أتيتكم بها بيضاء. نقية، فلا تتهوكوا، ولا يقربكم المتهوكون .
Khalid Ibn Arfattah said: I was sitting with Omar Ibn Al-Khattab, when he brought in a guy from Abdulqais whose house was in the village of Soos, and then Omar said to him:

Are you that guy from Abdulqais? The guy said: Yes

Omar said to him: And you live in Soos? The guy said: Yes

So Omar hit him with a stick. The guy said: What I have done wrong O Amir Al-Mumineen (Khalifah)?

Omar said to him: Sit down. Then Omar read the following Quran verses three times:

الر ۚ تِلْكَ آيَاتُ الْكِتَابِ الْمُبِينِ (1)
Alif Lam Ra. These are the signs of the manifest book.
[Al Quran ; 12:1]

إِنَّا أَنْزَلْنَاهُ قُرْآنًا عَرَبِيًّا لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ (2)
Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Quran that perhaps you will understand.
[Al Quran ; 12:2]

نَحْنُ نَقُصُّ عَلَيْكَ أَحْسَنَ الْقَصَصِ بِمَا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ هَٰذَا الْقُرْآنَ وَإِنْ كُنْتَ مِنْ قَبْلِهِ لَمِنَ الْغَافِلِينَ (3)
We relate to you the best of the stories in what We have revealed to you of this Quran; and indeed, you were before it among the unaware.
[Al Quran ; 12:3]

Then Omar hit the guy three times. The guy said to Omar: What I have done wrong O Amir Al-Mumineen (Khalifah)?

Omar said to the guy: Aren�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t you the one who translated the book of Daniel (to Arabic). The guy replied: Command me and I will certainly do what you want.

Omar said to the guy: Go and destroy it and never read it to the people or get it near them; and if I get informed that you read it or made anyone to read it, I will humiliate you with punishment.

Then Omar asked the guy to sit down, and told him: One day I got a book translated from the books of the people of the book, then went to the messenger of Allah, the messenger of Allah asked me about it, so I told him it is a translated book from the books of the people of the book. The prophet got very angry until his cheeks turned red.

The messenger then stood on the stand and said the following:

O people! I was given the complete collection of the words and their ending, it was been briefed to me in excellent briefing, and I came to you with it while it is white and pure. So do not be reckless and never allow reckless ones to come near you.

While the matter above was about writing/translating the books of the people of the book, we cannot overlook what the prophet said to the people about the Quran in the above allegation:

The messenger of Allah said: O people! I was given the complete collection of the words and their ending, it was been briefed to me in excellent briefing, and I came to you with it while it is white and pure. So do not be reckless and never allow reckless ones to come near you.

How beautiful these descriptions about the Quran: I was given the complete collection of the words and their endings, it was been briefed to me with excellent briefing, and I came to you with it while it is white and pure. So do not be reckless and never allow reckless ones to come near you.

In no way these Man Made evil books of crap hadith are:

1- Complete collection of the words and their endings.
2- Briefed with excellent briefing.
3- White.
4- Pure.

The Man Made rubbish books of crap hadith are not but:

1- Complete collection of confusion and non sense.
2- Unrealistically lengthy and horrible to read and understand by average people.
3- Black.
4- Impure.

See WB, it has to be as iffo told you, it is either you declare these books as false or you choose hell to be your destination.

Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s read a great story about Omar Ibn Al-Khattab when he wanted to filter out all al Mushrikoon:

حدثنا القاسم بن محمد أن عمر بن الخطاب بلغه أنه قد ظهر في أيدي الناس كتب، فاستنكرها، وكرهها، وقال: أيها الناس، أنه قد بلغني أنه قد ظهرت في أيديكم كتب؛ فأحبها إلى الله أعدلها وأقومها، فلا يبقين أحد عنده كتاب، إلا أتاني به، فأرى فيه رأيي قال فظنوا أنه يريد أن ينظر فيها، ويقومها على أمر لا يكون فيه اختلاف؛ فأتوه بكتبهم فأحرقها بالنار ثم قال: أمنية كأمنية أهل الكتاب
Al-Qasim Ibn Muhammed said: Omar Ibn Al-Khattab was informed that some books started to surface between the people, so he denied and despised them then said:

O people! I was informed that some books appeared between your hands, and the most loved of them to Allah would be the most just and fair, so no one leaves a book with him except he should bring to me so I see what is in there and give my opinion. (Omar was only tricking them)

The people thought wrong that Omar wanted to look at the books and authenticate them in order to remove disagreement between these books. The people brought to Omar all their books and he just burnt them all, and then said:

You just had the desire (tendency) like the desire of the people of the book.

How awesome by that man, I have to admit Omar is the most one I admire from the companions of the prophet, I am sort like him slightly, I do not mock around with al mushrikoon, I confront them in an aggressive way to filter them out and destroy them in the most aggressive way possible.

What I like about the above great story is how Omar quickly planned to trick the people in thinking that their Man Made books of rubbish hadith will be considered, but only after he checks them personally and give his opinion, then announcing who had the best book; consequently the owner of the winning book will be the most loved by Allah, see how he said it to them:

، أنه قد بلغني أنه قد ظهرت في أيديكم كتب؛ فأحبها إلى الله أعدلها وأقومها، فلا يبقين أحد عنده كتاب، إلا أتاني به، فأرى فيه رأيي

i.e.

I was informed that some books appeared between your hands, and the most loved of them to Allah would be the most just and fair, so no one leaves a book with him except he should bring to me so I see what is in there and give my opinion.

The people were fooled of course, was easy upon the very smart Omar especially that most of those wannabe Mushrikoon are already proved their dumbness and stupidity with their clear tendency to shirk. This allowed Omar to make sure that every single Man Made book will be brought in (to win the huge prize of the love of Allah), which meant that Omar made sure that every single Man Made book of theirs is brought in to be destroyed REGARDLESS of any good stories therein.

عن يحيى بن جعدة أن عمر بن الخطاب أراد أن يكتب السنة، ثم بدا له أن لا يكتبها؛ ثم كتب في الأمصار من كان عنده منها شيء فليمحه.
Yahya Ibn Jaadah said: Omar Ibn Al-Khattab desired to write the sunnah, then it became apparent to him that he should not, then he wrote on public notes to inform anyone who has written sunnah that it should be deleted.

Omar even posted public notices to make sure all Man Made books of sunnah were destroyed.

All the above stories about Omar happened when Omar was Khalifah, i.e. years after the prophet�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s death; a grandmother of all slams exposing the clear cut lies and confusion of al mushrikoon.
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14- Abdullah Ibn Masoud:

عن مرة قال: بينما نحن عند عبد الله إذ جاء ابن قرة بكتاب، قال: وجدته بالشام، فأعجبني فجئتك به ، قال فنظر فيه عبد الله؛ ثم قال: إنما هلك من كان قبلكم بإتباعهم الكتب، وتركهم كتابهم قال: ثم دعا بطست فيه ماء؛ فماثه فيه ثم محاه.
Murrah said: While we were with Abdullah Ibn Masoud, a guy named Ibn Qurrah came with a book and said: I found this book in Palestine and I admired it so I brought to you.

So Abdullah Ibn Masoud looked at it and said: The people of the book were destroyed before you because they followed (other) books and left their book (of Allah).

Then Abdullah Ibn Masoud asked to bring bucket of water, then he immersed it in it and washed it.

عن عبد الرحمن بن الأسود عن أبيه قال جاء علقمة بكتاب من مكة أو اليمن، صحيفة فيها أحاديث في أهل البيت بيت النبي صلى الله عليه، فاستأذنا على عبد الله، فدخلنا عليه، قال: فدفعنا إليه الصحيفة؛ قال فدعا الجارية ثم دعا بطست فيها ماء؛ فقلنا له: يا أبا عبد الرحمن أنظر فيها، فإن فيها أحاديث حساناً قال فجعل يميثها فيها، ويقول: نحن نقص عليك أحسن القصص بما أوحينا إليك هذا القرآن، القلوب أوعية فاشغلوها بالقرآن، ولا تشغلوها ما سواه .
Abdul Rahman Ibn Al-Aswad said that his father said: Alqamaah came with a book from Mecca or Yamen, a book with hadith in it about Ahl Al-Bayt, the house of the prophet, so we sought the permission to enter upon Abdullah Ibn Masoud and gave him that book.

Abdullah Ibn Masoud called his servant to bring a bucket of water. So we said to him: O father of Abdul Rahman, look at it, it has good hadith.

Abdullah Ibn Masoud replied to them with a Quran verse:

نَحْنُ نَقُصُّ عَلَيْكَ أَحْسَنَ الْقَصَصِ بِمَا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ هَٰذَا الْقُرْآنَ وَإِنْ كُنْتَ مِنْ قَبْلِهِ لَمِنَ الْغَافِلِينَ (3)
We relate to you the best of the stories in what We have revealed to you of this Quran; and indeed, you were before it among the unaware.
[Al Quran ; 12:3]

Then he said to them: The hearts are containers, make it busy with Quran, and never make it busy with anything else.

How compelling, man, he hit it on the nail: We relate to you the best of the stories in what We have revealed to you of this Quran. Not the rubbish stories found in these Man Made books of crap hadith. And even if the Mushrikoon consider it good books and good stories, the book of Allah is best and its stories are best as we have been told by Allah Himself. Consequently, there is no obligation for any sincere Muslim to follow or uphold the second best, the first best is enough for all Muslims, remember this verse:

الَّذِينَ يَسْتَمِعُونَ الْقَوْلَ فَيَتَّبِعُونَ أَحْسَنَهُ ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ الَّذِينَ هَدَاهُمُ اللَّهُ ۖ وَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمْ أُولُو الْأَلْبَابِ (18)
Those who hear the saying then follow the best of it; it is them whom Allah has guided, and it is them who possess minds.
[Al Quran ; 39:18]

-> Therefore, al Mushrikoon cannot be from among those who possess minds. Because they are not following the first best; in their own very eyes, they are following the second best along with the first best. While 39:18 tells us clearly that those who possess minds are those who follow the first best ONLY. There is no obligation for Muslims like me to follow the second best as instructed by 39:18, while the fact from my perspective that these Man Made rubbish books of hadith cannot be the second best, it can only be evil and the worst Man Made books which misguided, confused and divided most of the Muslims.

Now, if the hadith have been proven to contain massive errors and contradictions according to the Mushrikoon themselves, which made them invent the satanic abrogation concept to cover their hadith shame in defiance and arrogance. Then a Muslim like me who will never be arrogant towards the words of my Lord has every right to shove these books in the nearest toilet and flush them away, I have the Quran, the words of the Most Truthful, see this verse:

اللّهُ لا إِلَهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ لَيَجْمَعَنَّكُمْ إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ لاَ رَيْبَ فِيهِ وَمَنْ أَصْدَقُ مِنَ اللّهِ حَدِيثًا (87)
Allah, there is no God except Him, He will surely gather you for the day of resurrection, about which there is no doubt. And who is more truthful than Allah in Hadith (speech)?
[Al Quran ; 4:87]

-> Indeed, O Mushrikoon: Who is more truthful than Allah in Hadith (speech)?

عن عبد الرحمن بن الأسود عن أبيه قال جاء رجل من أهل الشام إلى عبد الله بن مسعود ومعه صحيفة فيها كلام من كلام أبي الدرداء. وقصص من قصصه فقال: يا أبا عبد الرحمن ألا تنظر ما في هذه الصحيفة من كلام أخيك أبي الدرداء? فأخذ الصحيفة، فجعل يقرأ فيها وينظر، حتى أتى منزله، فقال يا جارية ائتيني بالإجانة مملوءة ماء ، فجاءت بها، فجعل يدلكها، ويقول الر. تلك آيات الكتاب المبين، إما أنزلناه قرآناً عربياً لعلكم تعقلون؛ نحن نقص عليك أحسن القصص ، أقصصاً أحسن من قصص الله تريدون? أو حديثاً أحسن من حديث الله تريدون?.
Abdul Rahman Ibn Al-Aswad said that his father said: A man from the people of Palestine came to Abdullah Ibn Masoud with a book in which there is some written hadith from the hadith of your brother Abi Al-Dardaa and some of his hadith stories.

Abdullah Ibn Masoud took the book, read and looked until he arrived to his house, then he called for his servant to bring a bucket of water, he continued to Erased it with water and say the following Quran verses:

الر ۚ تِلْكَ آيَاتُ الْكِتَابِ الْمُبِينِ (1)
Alif Lam Ra. These are the signs of the manifest book.
[Al Quran ; 12:1]

إِنَّا أَنْزَلْنَاهُ قُرْآنًا عَرَبِيًّا لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ (2)
Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Quran that perhaps you will understand.
[Al Quran ; 12:2]

نَحْنُ نَقُصُّ عَلَيْكَ أَحْسَنَ الْقَصَصِ بِمَا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ هَٰذَا الْقُرْآنَ وَإِنْ كُنْتَ مِنْ قَبْلِهِ لَمِنَ الْغَافِلِينَ (3)
We relate to you the best of the stories in what We have revealed to you of this Quran; and indeed, you were before it among the unaware.
[Al Quran ; 12:3]

Then he said to them: Do you desire better stories than the stories of Allah?

Or he might have said: Do you want better hadith than the hadith of Allah?

Indeed, they desire Man Made contradicting hadith and stories more than desiring the truthful hadith and stories of Allah in His Quran.

عن أشعث بن سليم عن أبيه، قال: كنت أجالس أناساً في المسجد، فأتيتهم ذات يوم، فإذا عندهم صحيفة يقرأونها، فيها ذكر وحمد وثناء على الله، فأعجبتني، فقلت لصاحبها أعطنيها فانسخها قال: فإني وعدت بها رجلاً فأعد صحفك، فإذا فرغ منها، دفعتها إليك فأعددت صحفي، فدخلت المسجد ذات يوم، فإذا غلام يتخطى الخلق، يقول: أجيبوا عبد الله بن مسعود في داره، فانطلق الناس، فذهبت معهم، فإذا تلك الصحيفة بيده. وقال ألا إن ما في هذه الصحيفة فتنة وضلالة وبدعة؛ وإنما هلك من كان قبلكم من أهل الكتب باتباعهم الكتب، وتركهم كتاب الله. وإني أحرج على رجل يعلم منها شيئاً إلا دلني عليه. فوالذي نفس عبد الله بيده، لو أعلم منها صحيفة بدير هند لأتيتها، ولو مشياً على رجلي؛ فدعا بماء، فغسل تلك الصحيفة.
Ashaath said that his father said: I used to sit with some people in the mosque, one day I came to them and found with them a book in which there is praise and thanks to Allah, I admired it very much and said to its owner, give it to me so I can make a copy. He said: I promised another man to take it for while to make a copy, but when he finishes, you can borrow it; then I made my copy.

One day I entered the mosque and heard a boy calling us to answer Abdullah Ibn Masoud in his house.

The people went there, and I went with them; we found the same book in his hand, so Abdullah Ibn Masoud said:

Unquestionably, what are in this book are fitnah (trial), misguidance and inventions; and indeed, the people of the book were destroyed before you because they followed (similar) books and left the book of Allah. Therefore I ask everyone to inform me where I can find all these copies, as by Allah, if it comes to my knowledge that a copy of this is found in India, I would go to it (to destroy it), even on foot.

Then Abdullah Ibn Masoud asked for water and washed that book.

See how committed was Ibn Masoud in making sure that all these copies of Man Made rubbish hadith were destroyed, his commitment and seriousness were evident when he said: if it comes to my knowledge that a copy of this is found in India, I would go to it (to destroy it), even on foot.

عن إبراهيم التيمي، قال: بلغ ابن مسعود أن عند ناس كتاباً، فلم يزل بهم حتى أتوه به، فلما أتوه به، محاه، ثم قال: إنما هلك أهل الكتاب قبلكم أنهم أقبلوا على كتب علمائهم وأساقفتهم، وتركوا كتاب ربهم أو قال تركوا التوراة والإنجيل حتى درسا، وذهب ما فيهما من الفرائض والأحكام .
Abrahim Al-Taimi said: It came to the knowledge of Abdullah Ibn Masoud that there are (hadith) books with some people. So he called them and they came to him, so he deleted it and said:

The people of the book were destroyed before you because they indulged themselves in studying the books of their Ulaama and their Priests but left the book of their Lord.

Some said that Ibn Masoud said: And they left the Torah and Injil until the laws and sharia therein were forgotten.
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15- Others who prohibited writing the hadith:

عن أبي بردة عن أبي موسى قال: إن بني إسرائيل كتبوا كتاباً واتبعوه، وتركوا التوراة.
Abi Bardah said: Abi Musa said that the sons of Israel wrote a book and followed it and left the Torah.

حدثنا حماد ابن زيد قال قال لي ابن عون: إني أرى هذه الكتب، يا أبا إسماعيل، ستضل الناس .
Hammad Ibn Zaid said: Ibn Awin said to me that he sees these books as misguidance to the people.

What Hammad said above is exactly what happened to the Muslims spanning 1200 years and we�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??re still counting.

قال ابن عون: أحسب أو أرى يكون لهذه الكتب غب سوء
Ibn Awin said: I believe (or I see) that there will be a bad consequence to these books.

What Ibn Awin said above is the exact bad consequence we see happening to most Muslims around the world, division, confusion and ignorance. These Man Made books did not even clear their ignorance, rather increasing it. And if it continues this way, it has to reach a point where it is impossible to make amends, at that point I only see the wrath of Allah descending upon most Muslims on earth. I actually believe that most Muslims have reached this point already.

قال إسماعيل إنما كرهوا الكتاب، لأن من كان قبلكم اتخذوا الكتب، فأعجبوا بها، فكانوا يكرهون أن يشتغلوا بها عن القرآن
Ismael said: They despised writing the (hadith) book because those before you took the books and admired them. So those who despised writing hadith, despised that it will cause them to be diverted away from Quran.
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14- Abdullah Ibn Masoud:

عن مرة قال: بينما نحن عند عبد الله إذ جاء ابن قرة بكتاب، قال: وجدته بالشام، فأعجبني فجئتك به ، قال فنظر فيه عبد الله؛ ثم قال: إنما هلك من كان قبلكم بإتباعهم الكتب، وتركهم كتابهم قال: ثم دعا بطست فيه ماء؛ فماثه فيه ثم محاه.
Murrah said: While we were with Abdullah Ibn Masoud, a guy named Ibn Qurrah came with a book and said: I found this book in Palestine and I admired it so I brought to you.

So Abdullah Ibn Masoud looked at it and said: The people of the book were destroyed before you because they followed (other) books and left their book (of Allah).

Then Abdullah Ibn Masoud asked to bring bucket of water, then he immersed it in it and washed it.

عن عبد الرحمن بن الأسود عن أبيه قال جاء علقمة بكتاب من مكة أو اليمن، صحيفة فيها أحاديث في أهل البيت بيت النبي صلى الله عليه، فاستأذنا على عبد الله، فدخلنا عليه، قال: فدفعنا إليه الصحيفة؛ قال فدعا الجارية ثم دعا بطست فيها ماء؛ فقلنا له: يا أبا عبد الرحمن أنظر فيها، فإن فيها أحاديث حساناً قال فجعل يميثها فيها، ويقول: نحن نقص عليك أحسن القصص بما أوحينا إليك هذا القرآن، القلوب أوعية فاشغلوها بالقرآن، ولا تشغلوها ما سواه .
Abdul Rahman Ibn Al-Aswad said that his father said: Alqamaah came with a book from Mecca or Yamen, a book with hadith in it about Ahl Al-Bayt, the house of the prophet, so we sought the permission to enter upon Abdullah Ibn Masoud and gave him that book.

Abdullah Ibn Masoud called his servant to bring a bucket of water. So we said to him: O father of Abdul Rahman, look at it, it has good hadith.

Abdullah Ibn Masoud replied to them with a Quran verse:

نَحْنُ نَقُصُّ عَلَيْكَ أَحْسَنَ الْقَصَصِ بِمَا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ هَٰذَا الْقُرْآنَ وَإِنْ كُنْتَ مِنْ قَبْلِهِ لَمِنَ الْغَافِلِينَ (3)
We relate to you the best of the stories in what We have revealed to you of this Quran; and indeed, you were before it among the unaware.
[Al Quran ; 12:3]

Then he said to them: The hearts are containers, make it busy with Quran, and never make it busy with anything else.

How compelling, man, he hit it on the nail: We relate to you the best of the stories in what We have revealed to you of this Quran. Not the rubbish stories found in these Man Made books of crap hadith. And even if the Mushrikoon consider it good books and good stories, the book of Allah is best and its stories are best as we have been told by Allah Himself. Consequently, there is no obligation for any sincere Muslim to follow or uphold the second best, the first best is enough for all Muslims, remember this verse:

الَّذِينَ يَسْتَمِعُونَ الْقَوْلَ فَيَتَّبِعُونَ أَحْسَنَهُ ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ الَّذِينَ هَدَاهُمُ اللَّهُ ۖ وَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمْ أُولُو الْأَلْبَابِ (18)
Those who hear the saying then follow the best of it; it is them whom Allah has guided, and it is them who possess minds.
[Al Quran ; 39:18]

-> Therefore, al Mushrikoon cannot be from among those who possess minds. Because they are not following the first best; in their own very eyes, they are following the second best along with the first best. While 39:18 tells us clearly that those who possess minds are those who follow the first best ONLY. There is no obligation for Muslims like me to follow the second best as instructed by 39:18, while the fact from my perspective that these Man Made rubbish books of hadith cannot be the second best, it can only be evil and the worst Man Made books which misguided, confused and divided most of the Muslims.

Now, if the hadith have been proven to contain massive errors and contradictions according to the Mushrikoon themselves, which made them invent the satanic abrogation concept to cover their hadith shame in defiance and arrogance. Then a Muslim like me who will never be arrogant towards the words of my Lord has every right to shove these books in the nearest toilet and flush them away, I have the Quran, the words of the Most Truthful, see this verse:

اللّهُ لا إِلَهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ لَيَجْمَعَنَّكُمْ إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ لاَ رَيْبَ فِيهِ وَمَنْ أَصْدَقُ مِنَ اللّهِ حَدِيثًا (87)
Allah, there is no God except Him, He will surely gather you for the day of resurrection, about which there is no doubt. And who is more truthful than Allah in Hadith (speech)?
[Al Quran ; 4:87]

-> Indeed, O Mushrikoon: Who is more truthful than Allah in Hadith (speech)?

عن عبد الرحمن بن الأسود عن أبيه قال جاء رجل من أهل الشام إلى عبد الله بن مسعود ومعه صحيفة فيها كلام من كلام أبي الدرداء. وقصص من قصصه فقال: يا أبا عبد الرحمن ألا تنظر ما في هذه الصحيفة من كلام أخيك أبي الدرداء? فأخذ الصحيفة، فجعل يقرأ فيها وينظر، حتى أتى منزله، فقال يا جارية ائتيني بالإجانة مملوءة ماء ، فجاءت بها، فجعل يدلكها، ويقول الر. تلك آيات الكتاب المبين، إما أنزلناه قرآناً عربياً لعلكم تعقلون؛ نحن نقص عليك أحسن القصص ، أقصصاً أحسن من قصص الله تريدون? أو حديثاً أحسن من حديث الله تريدون?.
Abdul Rahman Ibn Al-Aswad said that his father said: A man from the people of Palestine came to Abdullah Ibn Masoud with a book in which there is some written hadith from the hadith of your brother Abi Al-Dardaa and some of his hadith stories.

Abdullah Ibn Masoud took the book, read and looked until he arrived to his house, then he called for his servant to bring a bucket of water, he continued to Erased it with water and say the following Quran verses:

الر ۚ تِلْكَ آيَاتُ الْكِتَابِ الْمُبِينِ (1)
Alif Lam Ra. These are the signs of the manifest book.
[Al Quran ; 12:1]

إِنَّا أَنْزَلْنَاهُ قُرْآنًا عَرَبِيًّا لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ (2)
Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Quran that perhaps you will understand.
[Al Quran ; 12:2]

نَحْنُ نَقُصُّ عَلَيْكَ أَحْسَنَ الْقَصَصِ بِمَا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ هَٰذَا الْقُرْآنَ وَإِنْ كُنْتَ مِنْ قَبْلِهِ لَمِنَ الْغَافِلِينَ (3)
We relate to you the best of the stories in what We have revealed to you of this Quran; and indeed, you were before it among the unaware.
[Al Quran ; 12:3]

Then he said to them: Do you desire better stories than the stories of Allah?

Or he might have said: Do you want better hadith than the hadith of Allah?

Indeed, they desire Man Made contradicting hadith and stories more than desiring the truthful hadith and stories of Allah in His Quran.

عن أشعث بن سليم عن أبيه، قال: كنت أجالس أناساً في المسجد، فأتيتهم ذات يوم، فإذا عندهم صحيفة يقرأونها، فيها ذكر وحمد وثناء على الله، فأعجبتني، فقلت لصاحبها أعطنيها فانسخها قال: فإني وعدت بها رجلاً فأعد صحفك، فإذا فرغ منها، دفعتها إليك فأعددت صحفي، فدخلت المسجد ذات يوم، فإذا غلام يتخطى الخلق، يقول: أجيبوا عبد الله بن مسعود في داره، فانطلق الناس، فذهبت معهم، فإذا تلك الصحيفة بيده. وقال ألا إن ما في هذه الصحيفة فتنة وضلالة وبدعة؛ وإنما هلك من كان قبلكم من أهل الكتب باتباعهم الكتب، وتركهم كتاب الله. وإني أحرج على رجل يعلم منها شيئاً إلا دلني عليه. فوالذي نفس عبد الله بيده، لو أعلم منها صحيفة بدير هند لأتيتها، ولو مشياً على رجلي؛ فدعا بماء، فغسل تلك الصحيفة.
Ashaath said that his father said: I used to sit with some people in the mosque, one day I came to them and found with them a book in which there is praise and thanks to Allah, I admired it very much and said to its owner, give it to me so I can make a copy. He said: I promised another man to take it for while to make a copy, but when he finishes, you can borrow it; then I made my copy.

One day I entered the mosque and heard a boy calling us to answer Abdullah Ibn Masoud in his house.

The people went there, and I went with them; we found the same book in his hand, so Abdullah Ibn Masoud said:

Unquestionably, what are in this book are fitnah (trial), misguidance and inventions; and indeed, the people of the book were destroyed before you because they followed (similar) books and left the book of Allah. Therefore I ask everyone to inform me where I can find all these copies, as by Allah, if it comes to my knowledge that a copy of this is found in India, I would go to it (to destroy it), even on foot.

Then Abdullah Ibn Masoud asked for water and washed that book.

See how committed was Ibn Masoud in making sure that all these copies of Man Made rubbish hadith were destroyed, his commitment and seriousness were evident when he said: if it comes to my knowledge that a copy of this is found in India, I would go to it (to destroy it), even on foot.

عن إبراهيم التيمي، قال: بلغ ابن مسعود أن عند ناس كتاباً، فلم يزل بهم حتى أتوه به، فلما أتوه به، محاه، ثم قال: إنما هلك أهل الكتاب قبلكم أنهم أقبلوا على كتب علمائهم وأساقفتهم، وتركوا كتاب ربهم أو قال تركوا التوراة والإنجيل حتى درسا، وذهب ما فيهما من الفرائض والأحكام .
Abrahim Al-Taimi said: It came to the knowledge of Abdullah Ibn Masoud that there are (hadith) books with some people. So he called them and they came to him, so he deleted it and said:

The people of the book were destroyed before you because they indulged themselves in studying the books of their Ulaama and their Priests but left the book of their Lord.

Some said that Ibn Masoud said: And they left the Torah and Injil until the laws and sharia therein were forgotten.
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15- Others who prohibited writing the hadith:

عن أبي بردة عن أبي موسى قال: إن بني إسرائيل كتبوا كتاباً واتبعوه، وتركوا التوراة.
Abi Bardah said: Abi Musa said that the sons of Israel wrote a book and followed it and left the Torah.

حدثنا حماد ابن زيد قال قال لي ابن عون: إني أرى هذه الكتب، يا أبا إسماعيل، ستضل الناس .
Hammad Ibn Zaid said: Ibn Awin said to me that he sees these books as misguidance to the people.

What Hammad said above is exactly what happened to the Muslims spanning 1200 years and we�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??re still counting.

قال ابن عون: أحسب أو أرى يكون لهذه الكتب غب سوء
Ibn Awin said: I believe (or I see) that there will be a bad consequence to these books.

What Ibn Awin said above is the exact bad consequence we see happening to most Muslims around the world, division, confusion and ignorance. These Man Made books did not even clear their ignorance, rather increasing it. And if it continues this way, it has to reach a point where it is impossible to make amends, at that point I only see the wrath of Allah descending upon most Muslims on earth. I actually believe that most Muslims have reached this point already.

قال إسماعيل إنما كرهوا الكتاب، لأن من كان قبلكم اتخذوا الكتب، فأعجبوا بها، فكانوا يكرهون أن يشتغلوا بها عن القرآن
Ismael said: They despised writing the (hadith) book because those before you took the books and admired them. So those who despised writing hadith, despised that it will cause them to be diverted away from Quran.
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16- The opinion of the author of this book (Al-Khateeb Al-Bughdadi):

فقد ثبت أن كراهة من كره الكتاب من الصدر الأول، إنما هي لئلا يضاهى بكتاب الله تعالى غيره، أو يشتغل عن القرآن بسواه، ونهي عن الكتب القديمة أن تتخذ، لأنه لا يعرف حقها من باطلها، وصحيحها من فاسدها، مع أن القرآن كفى منها، وصار مهيمناً عليها. ونهي عن كتب العلم في صدر الإسلام وجدته لقلة الفقهاء. في ذلك الوقت، والمميزين بين الوحي وغيره، لأن أكثر الأعراب لم يكونوا فقهوا في الدين، ولا جالسوا العلماء العارفين؛ فلم يؤمن أن يلحقوا ما يجدون من الصحف بالقرآن، ويعتقد أن ما اشتملت عليه كلام الرحمن

It is proven that despising to write (the hadith) by the very early people was only for the fear that these books will compete against the book of Allah, exalted is He; or the fear that the people will get busy with anything but the Quran. And this prohibition was covering:

1-The old scriptures because we cannot know its truthfulness from its falsehood, despite that the Quran is sufficient and is overruling them.

2- Hadith books during the early time of Islam because there was only a few Fuqaahaa (experts in understanding religion during that time) who can differentiate between revelation from Allah and whatever else. This is because most of the Bedouins were not expert in the religion yet, nor have they accompanied the knowledgeable Ulaama, So they thought that they might mix what they find written in books with the Quran, then wrongly think that these Man Made books are revelation from Allah.

Ahmed says:
The above crap is nothing but non sense; was that all what the confused author of this book had to say to all these evidences he himself presented? How funny; well, I am going to reply to this Mushrik the way I reply to any filthy Mushrik, so let me get the ball rolling:

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16- The opinion of the author of this book (Al-Khateeb Al-Bughdadi):

فقد ثبت أن كراهة من كره الكتاب من الصدر الأول، إنما هي لئلا يضاهى بكتاب الله تعالى غيره، أو يشتغل عن القرآن بسواه، ونهي عن الكتب القديمة أن تتخذ، لأنه لا يعرف حقها من باطلها، وصحيحها من فاسدها، مع أن القرآن كفى منها، وصار مهيمناً عليها. ونهي عن كتب العلم في صدر الإسلام وجدته لقلة الفقهاء. في ذلك الوقت، والمميزين بين الوحي وغيره، لأن أكثر الأعراب لم يكونوا فقهوا في الدين، ولا جالسوا العلماء العارفين؛ فلم يؤمن أن يلحقوا ما يجدون من الصحف بالقرآن، ويعتقد أن ما اشتملت عليه كلام الرحمن

It is proven that despising to write (the hadith) by the very early people was only for the fear that these books will compete against the book of Allah, exalted is He; or the fear that the people will get busy with anything but the Quran. And this prohibition was covering:

1-The old scriptures because we cannot know its truthfulness from its falsehood, despite that the Quran is sufficient and is overruling them.

2- Hadith books during the early time of Islam because there was only a few Fuqaahaa (experts in understanding religion during that time) who can differentiate between revelation from Allah and whatever else. This is because most of the Bedouins were not expert in the religion yet, nor have they accompanied the knowledgeable Ulaama, So they thought that they might mix what they find written in books with the Quran, then wrongly think that these Man Made books are revelation from Allah.

Ahmed says:
The above crap is nothing but non sense; was that all what the confused author of this book had to say to all these evidences he himself presented? How funny; well, I am going to reply to this Mushrik the way I reply to any filthy Mushrik, so let me get the ball rolling:

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مَّنْ يُطِعِ الرَّسُولَ فَقَدْ أَطَاعَ اللّهَ وَمَن تَوَلَّى فَمَا أَرْسَلْنَاكَ عَلَيْهِمْ حَفِيظًا (80)
Whoever obeys the messenger, then he has certainly obeyed Allah; and whoever turns away, then We have not sent you over them as a keeper.
[Al Quran ; 4:80]

If you obey the Messenger (NOT IF YOU OBEY MUHAMMAD), you have obeyed Allah, and if anyone disobeys (turns away), then it is not the messengers�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?? (in this case Muhammad) job to look after them (the disbelievers) or arrange their affairs. Which means that for those who obey Allah and His messenger (The Quran), the messenger will then have the responsibility of looking out for them or arranging their affairs.

(4:80) very clearly shows that obeying Muhammad was the same as obeying Allah. This is because Muhammad ordered only what Allah ordered (In the Quran), this also shows that if Muhammad said something that was not from the Quran, then it would not be binding as it is not what Allah said and therefore would not fit (4:80).

Some other indications of the fact that Obey Allah and obey the messenger, is referring to the word of Allah as spoken by the prophet are as follows:

وَأَذَانٌ مِّنَ اللّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ إِلَى النَّاسِ يَوْمَ الْحَجِّ الأَكْبَرِ أَنَّ اللّهَ بَرِيءٌ مِّنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ وَرَسُولُهُ فَإِن تُبْتُمْ فَهُوَ خَيْرٌ لَّكُمْ وَإِن تَوَلَّيْتُمْ فَاعْلَمُواْ أَنَّكُمْ غَيْرُ مُعْجِزِي اللّهِ وَبَشِّرِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ بِعَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ (3)
And an announcement from Allah and His messenger to the people on the day of the greater pilgrimage that Allah is disassociated from the polytheists, and so is His messenger. So if you repent, it will be good for you; and if you turn away, then know that you will not cause failure to Allah. And give tidings to those who have disbelieved of a painful torture.
[Al Quran ; 9:3]

Was this referring to two different announcements, one from the prophet and the other from Allah? No! Here lies the logic of saying Allah and His messenger, because even though it is the word of Allah, it is spoken by Muhammad and hence defined as his word too.

So if you say obey Allah and not Muhammad, no one would obey the Quran, if you say obey Allah only all the time, then there would be ambiguity with respect to obeying the (Quranic) words when they came from Muhammad‟s mouth. (4:80) fits in with this perfectly.

This is what Allah does, He reveals his message to a human who proclaims it, Allah has never spoken to towns and cities directly, it was always through a messenger, through the mouth of the messenger. Of note is the fact that we never read in the Quran words like "Obey Allah and obey Muhammad", there is something instructive in this, as it is not Muhammad the man that was to be obeyed, it was the messenger that was to be obeyed, this is to emphasise that what is to be obeyed is the "message" of God and not the words, ideas or views of the man Muhammad. So when you obey the messenger, you are of course obeying the message and hence Allah. Allah Decides and the messenger decides the same way, no separation in this:

وَمَا كَانَ لِمُؤْمِنٍ وَلَا مُؤْمِنَةٍ إِذَا قَضَى اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ أَمْرًا أَنْ يَكُونَ لَهُمُ الْخِيَرَةُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِمْ ۗ وَمَنْ يَعْصِ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ ضَلَالًا مُبِينًا (36)
And it is not for a believing man or for a believing woman, when Allah and His messenger have decided a matter, that they should have any choice about their matter. And whoever disobeys Allah and His messenger, he is certainly strayed into obvious misguidance.
[Al Quran ; 33:36]

It is obvious that Muhammad will decide whatever Allah decides, and hence there cannot be any separation in this regard (that is, that you would obey the decisions of Allah in the Quran, and separately obey the decisions of Muhammad even if they have no Quranic basis). The next verses clarify that it is only Allah who judges anything and not Muhammad. That is why Muhammad can make no judgement unless it is Allah‟s. Only Allah Judges:

Say: Allah is most Knowing how long they remained. To Him belongs the unknown of the heavens and the earth. How Seeing is He and how Hearing. They do not have other than Him any guardian; and He does not associate with His judgment anyone.[Al Quran ; 18:26]

Is it other than Allah I should seek a judge while it is He Who has sent down to you the book explained? And those whom We have given the book know that it is sent down by your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters.[Al Quran ; 6:114]

And so we see that there is no separation of Authority in the phrase Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??Obey Allah and obey the messenger‟, it really just means, obey the word of Allah by obeying what is revealed through the prophet. Hence the 3rd possibility of absolutely obeying for all time what the prophet says as a result of what was revealed to him from Allah (As in when he judges by the Quran) is not to be accepted, as the prophet‟s individual judgement is not the judgement or word of Allah and hence cannot be described as Allah and the messenger‟s word/judgement (it is merely the judgement of a societal leader for his time and place, and not revelation and guidance for all humanity).

This can only happen if it is first Allah‟s judgement (That is, if it is contained in the Quran). Because for example, Muhammad used his judgement in (9:43)

عَفَا اللّهُ عَنكَ لِمَ أَذِنتَ لَهُمْ حَتَّى يَتَبَيَّنَ لَكَ الَّذِينَ صَدَقُواْ وَتَعْلَمَ الْكَاذِبِينَ (43)
Allah has pardoned you when you permitted them (to remain behind) until it was made evident to you those who spoke the truth and you knew the liars.
[Al Quran ; 9:43]

And he was wrong, because it was not the judgement of Allah. Let us not forget that the Quran is full of Allah‟s judgements and answers to the kuffar and Muslims, recall:

وَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا لَوْلَا نُزِّلَ عَلَيْهِ الْقُرْآنُ جُمْلَةً وَاحِدَةً ۚ كَذَٰلِكَ لِنُثَبِّتَ بِهِ فُؤَادَكَ ۖ وَرَتَّلْنَاهُ تَرْتِيلًا (32)
And those who have disbelieved say: Why was the Quran not sent down to him at once? Thus that We may strengthen thereby your heart; and We have recited it in (clear) reciting.
[Al Quran ; 25:32]

وَلَا يَأْتُونَكَ بِمَثَلٍ إِلَّا جِئْنَاكَ بِالْحَقِّ وَأَحْسَنَ تَفْسِيرًا (33)
And they do not bring to you an example except that We brought to you the truth and best of explanation.
[Al Quran ; 25:33]]

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَسْأَلُواْ عَنْ أَشْيَاء إِن تُبْدَ لَكُمْ تَسُؤْكُمْ وَإِن تَسْأَلُواْ عَنْهَا حِينَ يُنَزَّلُ الْقُرْآنُ تُبْدَ لَكُمْ عَفَا اللّهُ عَنْهَا وَاللّهُ غَفُورٌ حَلِيمٌ (101)
O you who have believed! Do not ask about things which, if revealed to you, may trouble you. But if you ask about them when the Quran is sent down, it may be revealed to you. Allah has pardoned it, and Allah is Forgiving, Forbearing.
[Al Quran ; 5:101]

And so Muhammad would have answered his opponents directly with the Word of Allah. Recall all the places Allah says Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??Say (Qul)‟ to the believers and unbelievers, and Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??They say (Qalu/Qaal)‟ or they askÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¦ Consider the next verse:

اتَّبِعُواْ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَلاَ تَتَّبِعُواْ مِن دُونِهِ أَوْلِيَاء قَلِيلاً مَّا تَذَكَّرُونَ (3)
Follow what has been sent down to you from your Lord and do not follow other than Him any guardians. Little do you remember.
[Al Quran ; 7:3]

This is general in scope, so we should not even take Muhammad/Messenger as a guardian other than Allah when it comes to guidance. This is the clear command of Allah to follow what has been revealed. Not what the prophet says, not what he does, but what is revealed. But to obey what the prophet says as a result of what was revealed to him from Allah (As in when he judges by the Quran) is in fact valid because of his societal role (as indicated in the Quran) apart from being the messenger.

In conclusion, consider the following:

قُلْ إِنْ أَدْرِي أَقَرِيبٌ مَا تُوعَدُونَ أَمْ يَجْعَلُ لَهُ رَبِّي أَمَدًا (25)
Say: I do not know if what you are promised is near or if my Lord will make for it a long period.
[Al Quran ; 72:25]

عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ فَلَا يُظْهِرُ عَلَىٰ غَيْبِهِ أَحَدًا (26)
The Knower of the unseen, and He does not reveal His (knowledge of the) unseen to anyone.
[Al Quran ; 72:26]

إِلَّا مَنِ ارْتَضَىٰ مِنْ رَسُولٍ فَإِنَّهُ يَسْلُكُ مِنْ بَيْنِ يَدَيْهِ وَمِنْ خَلْفِهِ رَصَدًا (27)
Except whom He has approved of any messenger; for indeed, He sends before him and behind him observers.
[Al Quran ; 72:27]

لِيَعْلَمَ أَنْ قَدْ أَبْلَغُوا رِسَالَاتِ رَبِّهِمْ وَأَحَاطَ بِمَا لَدَيْهِمْ وَأَحْصَىٰ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ عَدَدًا (28)
So He makes evident that they have delivered the messages of their Lord, and He has encompassed what is with them and has enumerated everything in numbers.
[Al Quran ; 72:28]

Consider this, Allah has told us that the Quran is detailed, clear and complete for our guidance, what sense does it then make to say that Allah is telling us to follow more/separate guidance from Muhammad? Consider:

And is it not sufficient for them that We have sent down upon you the book which is recited to them? Indeed, in that is a mercy and a reminder for a people who believe.[Al Quran ; 29:51]

Even from this point of view, in order for the Quran to be without contradiction, Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??obey Allah and the messenger‟ cannot mean to obey two separate sources for guidance.
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Ahmed says:

This is indeed another Grandmother of all slams exposing the filthy Mushrikoon from among the Muslims who idol worship Muhammed by making him a partner to Allah in creating religious laws for them based on each�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s wisdom, then they obey both together.

What current Mushriks like Mushrik Boy WittyBoy allege about obeying Allah and Muhammed is nothing new, they are only parroting what their masters and associates parroted since they invented the hadith. Yet they have no shame when you confront them with the clear cut impossibility of half stoning the married adulterers who were ex-slaves.

See this crap from the man made book of Bukhri Springer hadith:

The allegation is listed under a sub-chapter that is titled: What was talked about concerning the hadith by one narrator only (UHADI). What they are trying to say, is simply providing some apologies to why we should uphold the some of the UHADI hadith (a hadith with only one narrator, like the hadith by Abu Hurairah prohibiting marrying a woman one of her unties at the same time). Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s look at this different allegation by Abu Hurairah:

http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?hnum=6718&doc=0

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The doubtful Abu Hurairah alleged:

While we were sitting with the prophet, a man from among the Bedouin stood up and said: Judge between us by the book of Allah. So his opponent said to the prophet: Judge for him by the book of Allah, and if you may permit me to speak. The prophet said to him: Speak.

So the opponent said: My son who was working for him (the Bedouin), committed adultery with his wife (the wife of the Bedouin), so I was told that my son should be stoned, but I ransomed him with 100 sheep and a newly born one, then I asked those with knowledge and they informed me that I have to lash my son 100 lashes and expel him from the land for one year.

So the messenger of Allah said: By Whom Who controls my soul, I will judge between you by the book of Allah, as for the sheep and the newly born one, they should be returned to you, and as for your son, he should be lashed 100 lashes and be expelled from the land for a year.

And as for you Anis to go to the wife of Bedouin, and if she confesses then stone her.

Anis went to her and she confessed and he stoned her.

End of hadith

What is funny but consistent with these man made rubbish books of hadith that when they want to enforce and man made law, they repeat the same incident numerous times which must result in numerous and contradicting accounts, the above allegation for example was repeated through any of the following variables:

- The two men were, a Bedouin and another anonymous man
- The two men were anonymous men
- The two men went to the prophet to seek his judgment
- The two men were sitting with the prophet and one stood up to seek his judgment
- The adulterer was the son of Bedouin
- The adulterer was the son of other anonymous man
- The adulteress was the wife of Bedouin
- The adulteress was the wife of other anonymous man
- The ransom was 100 sheep and a newly born one
- The ransom was 100 sheep and a female slave
- The ransom was 100 sheep and a male slave
- The confession of the adulteress was not required
- The confession of the adulteress was required
- They went to the adulteress and stoned her
- They brought the adulteress to them and stoned her

Well, the spin did not stop there, they tried to elaborate on the above crap in their other man made Bukhari based book Fath al-Bari, so they said:

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Apparently when they elaborated about the above crap of hadith, they did not care about the main subject in hand: Should we stone the adulterers under the Islamic sharia or not? What they cared about is to convince the wannabe hadith worshippers that if a hadith is narrated by one person only, then that is not a strong ground to dismiss the hadith, please be aware that most Abu Hurairah hadith were only narrated by one narrator who was him, i.e. they are indirectly defending the hadith of the always doubtful Abu Hurairah. So here are parts of what they said above:

Ibn Al-Qayem said in his refute against those who reject a hadith by one narrator when it states anything that is not found in the Quran:

Sunnah and Quran go together like this:

A- Sunnah may agree perfectly with the Quran.
B- Sunnah may explain something in the Quran
C- Sunnah may state a law that the Quran did not mention

As for the last one above (Sunnah may state a law that the Quran never mentioned), the law must start by the prophet alone so that he is obeyed. That is because if obeying the prophet in only the Quran, then there would not be a SPECIAL OBEDIENCE for him alone, and Allah has said in the Quran: Whoever obeys the messenger, then such one has obeyed Allah.

(Ahmed says: And that is exactly what filthy Mushrik Boy has parroted to us, they continued to say:)

As for those who does not accept the laws that were alleged to be invented by Muhammed in addition to the Quran, unless it is a popular and widely known laws by the prophet, they would have contradicted themselves because we also know from the UHADI hadith all the following laws which are not found in the Quran:

- Prohibiting marrying both a woman and her aunty together
- Prohibiting marrying from those with whom they suckled
- Inheritance of grandmother
- Prohibiting women with periods from fasting and praying
- Laws concerning those who have sex with their wives while fasting
- Allowing Wudo with wine that is made from dates
- Cutting the leg of a re-offending thief
- Giving a share of 1/6 to the daughter of any deceased man, with her aunty
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- And many more which needs a lot of explanation, but all the above laws came from hadith that were alleged by one person only, some of it are conclusive and others are doubtful, but they divided them into 3 categories, and they had their reasons to do so which again needs a lot of explanation going through the principles of Fiqh (understanding the religion)

End of Fath al-Bary�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s elaboration

Well, what a silly apology, if we are going to talk about laws for things that the Quran never talked about, then we have far more than the man made laws invented in their man made books of UHADI hadith, what we should do then? I honestly believe that such laws are not needed, and even some of it can be worked out using the Quran alone, for example the law of prohibiting a woman who has her period from fasting and praying, this law can be worked out from the Quran as follow:

1) Allah commands us to pray while we are physically pure, that is why He commanded us to do Wudo in advance, also Allah told us that the periods make women unclean, therefore they cannot pray while they have their periods.

2) Allah gave exception from fasting to those who are sick as long as they do it later while they are not sick, and because the periods most likely make the women sick, then they may not fast while they have their periods, then do the days they missed later on when they do not have their periods.

The point is this, those hadith worshippers do not want to ponder upon the Quran, they only want to ponder upon their man made hadith while indulging themselves in clear cut shirk, and while being proud of it too, this was clear from the above elaboration when they said that there should be a special obedience for the prophet alone, this when they brought in a sentence from the Quran telling us: Whoever obeys the messenger, then such one has obeyed Allah, let me bring this Quran verse in here:

مَّنْ يُطِعِ الرَّسُولَ فَقَدْ أَطَاعَ اللّهَ وَمَن تَوَلَّى فَمَا أَرْسَلْنَاكَ عَلَيْهِمْ حَفِيظًا (80)
Whoever obeys the messenger, then he indeed obeyed Allah, and whoever turned back, then We have not sent you over them as a keeper.
[Al Quran ; 4:80]

-> Well, someone like me is still obeying the prophet, even if I only take some of the conjectures from their man made hadith books that are qualified by the Quran while rejecting all other conjectures that are contradicting the Quran, I still pray and fast like the prophet, I also adore and respect the Quran that he delivered. How come I cannot be? At least this way, I cannot be exposed to a possible shirk; at least this way I am far safer than those who want to obey allegations about Muhammed for the sake of a special and exclusive obedient to him next to their obedience to Allah. Indeed, it sounds like clear cut shirk to me, and I will never go such way, and never been alhamdulellah.

See, the message of the above verse does not mean that you have to obey both in different and contradicting matters, it makes no sense, rather if you obey Muhammed in all the things that are confirmed by Allah, then you should be considered as obeying Allah as well, no question about it.

But for the hadith worshippers, it goes like this:

- Allah ordains some laws
- Muhammed ordains other different laws, even ones that were already settled by Allah
- They should obey both

It virtually sounds like they consider Muhammed as another human god who has the same power that the real divine God has.

It seems that those hadith worshippers did not read the next two verses after 4:80, so let me bring them in here:

وَيَقُولُونَ طَاعَةٌ فَإِذَا بَرَزُواْ مِنْ عِندِكَ بَيَّتَ طَآئِفَةٌ مِّنْهُمْ غَيْرَ الَّذِي تَقُولُ وَاللّهُ يَكْتُبُ مَا يُبَيِّتُونَ فَأَعْرِضْ عَنْهُمْ وَتَوَكَّلْ عَلَى اللّهِ وَكَفَى بِاللّهِ وَكِيلاً (81)
And they say: Obedience. But when they leave from your presence, a party of them spend the night changing what you say; and Allah records what they change at night, so turn aside from them and trust in Allah, and it is enough that Allah is Trustee.
[Al Quran ; 4:81]

-> Wow, the above verse is like virtually talking about those hadith worshippers, remember when Ahmed Ibn Hanbal recorded in his man made hadith books 6 times that the prophet commanded the people not write anything he says but the Quran, as well Ibn Magih told us that the prophet told the people not to talk too much about him, but we know that most of the people turned back, i.e. they started to write anything the prophet says, as well talk like mad about him for 1200 years and we are still counting, 4:81 seems like describing so (indirectly): وَيَقُولُونَ طَاعَةٌ فَإِذَا بَرَزُواْ مِنْ عِندِكَ بَيَّتَ طَآئِفَةٌ مِّنْهُمْ غَيْرَ الَّذِي تَقُولُ , i.e. And they say: Obedience. But when they leave from your presence, a party of them spend the night changing what you say;

That is why such people cannot be obeying Allah because they were not obeying what Muhammed commanded them; in fact they were even changing what Muhammed was telling them.

We have also seen clearly so many contradictions and discrepancies in all the above hadith about stoning, yet those hadith worshippers chose to ponder upon it then spread it between them, while never ponder upon what was sent to them from Allah (the Quran), see the next verse:

أَفَلاَ يَتَدَبَّرُونَ الْقُرْآنَ وَلَوْ كَانَ مِنْ عِندِ غَيْرِ اللّهِ لَوَجَدُواْ فِيهِ اخْتِلاَفًا كَثِيرًا (82)
Do they not ponder upon the Quran? And if it had been from anyone other than Allah, they would have found in it many discrepancy.
[Al Quran ; 4:82]

-> Certainly the above verse should put these man made books of rubbish hadith to shame, in the chapter about stoning, there are zillions of discrepancies. These man made books have to have all these masses of contradictions it has to be, because such they are not from Allah. This is how it beautifully and indirectly described: وَلَوْ كَانَ مِنْ عِندِ غَيْرِ اللّهِ لَوَجَدُواْ فِيهِ اخْتِلاَفًا كَثِيرًا , i.e. And if it had been from anyone other than Allah, they would have found in it many discrepancy.


Here you have it AGAIN, Mushrikoon and kafirs from among the hadith worshippers; another Grandmother of all slams. See this:



And I have a another surprise for al Mushrikoon and kafirs from among the hadith worshipers, enjoy:

Another surprise, anothet surprise

Salam

[AhmedBahgat]

Read above first ^^^^^^

مَّنْ يُطِعِ الرَّسُولَ فَقَدْ أَطَاعَ اللّهَ وَمَن تَوَلَّى فَمَا أَرْسَلْنَاكَ عَلَيْهِمْ حَفِيظًا (80)
Whoever obeys the messenger, then he has certainly obeyed Allah; and whoever turns away, then We have not sent you over them as a keeper.
[Al Quran ; 4:80]

If you obey the Messenger (NOT IF YOU OBEY MUHAMMAD), you have obeyed Allah, and if anyone disobeys (turns away), then it is not the messengers�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?? (in this case Muhammad) job to look after them (the disbelievers) or arrange their affairs. Which means that for those who obey Allah and His messenger (The Quran), the messenger will then have the responsibility of looking out for them or arranging their affairs.

(4:80) very clearly shows that obeying Muhammad was the same as obeying Allah. This is because Muhammad ordered only what Allah ordered (In the Quran), this also shows that if Muhammad said something that was not from the Quran, then it would not be binding as it is not what Allah said and therefore would not fit (4:80).

Some other indications of the fact that Obey Allah and obey the messenger, is referring to the word of Allah as spoken by the prophet are as follows:

وَأَذَانٌ مِّنَ اللّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ إِلَى النَّاسِ يَوْمَ الْحَجِّ الأَكْبَرِ أَنَّ اللّهَ بَرِيءٌ مِّنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ وَرَسُولُهُ فَإِن تُبْتُمْ فَهُوَ خَيْرٌ لَّكُمْ وَإِن تَوَلَّيْتُمْ فَاعْلَمُواْ أَنَّكُمْ غَيْرُ مُعْجِزِي اللّهِ وَبَشِّرِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ بِعَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ (3)
And an announcement from Allah and His messenger to the people on the day of the greater pilgrimage that Allah is disassociated from the polytheists, and so is His messenger. So if you repent, it will be good for you; and if you turn away, then know that you will not cause failure to Allah. And give tidings to those who have disbelieved of a painful torture.
[Al Quran ; 9:3]

Was this referring to two different announcements, one from the prophet and the other from Allah? No! Here lies the logic of saying Allah and His messenger, because even though it is the word of Allah, it is spoken by Muhammad and hence defined as his word too.

So if you say obey Allah and not Muhammad, no one would obey the Quran, if you say obey Allah only all the time, then there would be ambiguity with respect to obeying the (Quranic) words when they came from Muhammad‟s mouth. (4:80) fits in with this perfectly.

This is what Allah does, He reveals his message to a human who proclaims it, Allah has never spoken to towns and cities directly, it was always through a messenger, through the mouth of the messenger. Of note is the fact that we never read in the Quran words like "Obey Allah and obey Muhammad", there is something instructive in this, as it is not Muhammad the man that was to be obeyed, it was the messenger that was to be obeyed, this is to emphasise that what is to be obeyed is the "message" of God and not the words, ideas or views of the man Muhammad. So when you obey the messenger, you are of course obeying the message and hence Allah. Allah Decides and the messenger decides the same way, no separation in this:

وَمَا كَانَ لِمُؤْمِنٍ وَلَا مُؤْمِنَةٍ إِذَا قَضَى اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ أَمْرًا أَنْ يَكُونَ لَهُمُ الْخِيَرَةُ مِنْ أَمْرِهِمْ ۗ وَمَنْ يَعْصِ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ ضَلَالًا مُبِينًا (36)
And it is not for a believing man or for a believing woman, when Allah and His messenger have decided a matter, that they should have any choice about their matter. And whoever disobeys Allah and His messenger, he is certainly strayed into obvious misguidance.
[Al Quran ; 33:36]

It is obvious that Muhammad will decide whatever Allah decides, and hence there cannot be any separation in this regard (that is, that you would obey the decisions of Allah in the Quran, and separately obey the decisions of Muhammad even if they have no Quranic basis). The next verses clarify that it is only Allah who judges anything and not Muhammad. That is why Muhammad can make no judgement unless it is Allah‟s. Only Allah Judges:

Say: Allah is most Knowing how long they remained. To Him belongs the unknown of the heavens and the earth. How Seeing is He and how Hearing. They do not have other than Him any guardian; and He does not associate with His judgment anyone.[Al Quran ; 18:26]

Is it other than Allah I should seek a judge while it is He Who has sent down to you the book explained? And those whom We have given the book know that it is sent down by your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters.[Al Quran ; 6:114]

And so we see that there is no separation of Authority in the phrase Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??Obey Allah and obey the messenger‟, it really just means, obey the word of Allah by obeying what is revealed through the prophet. Hence the 3rd possibility of absolutely obeying for all time what the prophet says as a result of what was revealed to him from Allah (As in when he judges by the Quran) is not to be accepted, as the prophet‟s individual judgement is not the judgement or word of Allah and hence cannot be described as Allah and the messenger‟s word/judgement (it is merely the judgement of a societal leader for his time and place, and not revelation and guidance for all humanity).

This can only happen if it is first Allah‟s judgement (That is, if it is contained in the Quran). Because for example, Muhammad used his judgement in (9:43)

عَفَا اللّهُ عَنكَ لِمَ أَذِنتَ لَهُمْ حَتَّى يَتَبَيَّنَ لَكَ الَّذِينَ صَدَقُواْ وَتَعْلَمَ الْكَاذِبِينَ (43)
Allah has pardoned you when you permitted them (to remain behind) until it was made evident to you those who spoke the truth and you knew the liars.
[Al Quran ; 9:43]

And he was wrong, because it was not the judgement of Allah. Let us not forget that the Quran is full of Allah‟s judgements and answers to the kuffar and Muslims, recall:

وَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا لَوْلَا نُزِّلَ عَلَيْهِ الْقُرْآنُ جُمْلَةً وَاحِدَةً ۚ كَذَٰلِكَ لِنُثَبِّتَ بِهِ فُؤَادَكَ ۖ وَرَتَّلْنَاهُ تَرْتِيلًا (32)
And those who have disbelieved say: Why was the Quran not sent down to him at once? Thus that We may strengthen thereby your heart; and We have recited it in (clear) reciting.
[Al Quran ; 25:32]

وَلَا يَأْتُونَكَ بِمَثَلٍ إِلَّا جِئْنَاكَ بِالْحَقِّ وَأَحْسَنَ تَفْسِيرًا (33)
And they do not bring to you an example except that We brought to you the truth and best of explanation.
[Al Quran ; 25:33]]

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَسْأَلُواْ عَنْ أَشْيَاء إِن تُبْدَ لَكُمْ تَسُؤْكُمْ وَإِن تَسْأَلُواْ عَنْهَا حِينَ يُنَزَّلُ الْقُرْآنُ تُبْدَ لَكُمْ عَفَا اللّهُ عَنْهَا وَاللّهُ غَفُورٌ حَلِيمٌ (101)
O you who have believed! Do not ask about things which, if revealed to you, may trouble you. But if you ask about them when the Quran is sent down, it may be revealed to you. Allah has pardoned it, and Allah is Forgiving, Forbearing.
[Al Quran ; 5:101]

And so Muhammad would have answered his opponents directly with the Word of Allah. Recall all the places Allah says Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??Say (Qul)‟ to the believers and unbelievers, and Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??They say (Qalu/Qaal)‟ or they askÃ??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¦ Consider the next verse:

اتَّبِعُواْ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَلاَ تَتَّبِعُواْ مِن دُونِهِ أَوْلِيَاء قَلِيلاً مَّا تَذَكَّرُونَ (3)
Follow what has been sent down to you from your Lord and do not follow other than Him any guardians. Little do you remember.
[Al Quran ; 7:3]

This is general in scope, so we should not even take Muhammad/Messenger as a guardian other than Allah when it comes to guidance. This is the clear command of Allah to follow what has been revealed. Not what the prophet says, not what he does, but what is revealed. But to obey what the prophet says as a result of what was revealed to him from Allah (As in when he judges by the Quran) is in fact valid because of his societal role (as indicated in the Quran) apart from being the messenger.

In conclusion, consider the following:

قُلْ إِنْ أَدْرِي أَقَرِيبٌ مَا تُوعَدُونَ أَمْ يَجْعَلُ لَهُ رَبِّي أَمَدًا (25)
Say: I do not know if what you are promised is near or if my Lord will make for it a long period.
[Al Quran ; 72:25]

عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ فَلَا يُظْهِرُ عَلَىٰ غَيْبِهِ أَحَدًا (26)
The Knower of the unseen, and He does not reveal His (knowledge of the) unseen to anyone.
[Al Quran ; 72:26]

إِلَّا مَنِ ارْتَضَىٰ مِنْ رَسُولٍ فَإِنَّهُ يَسْلُكُ مِنْ بَيْنِ يَدَيْهِ وَمِنْ خَلْفِهِ رَصَدًا (27)
Except whom He has approved of any messenger; for indeed, He sends before him and behind him observers.
[Al Quran ; 72:27]

لِيَعْلَمَ أَنْ قَدْ أَبْلَغُوا رِسَالَاتِ رَبِّهِمْ وَأَحَاطَ بِمَا لَدَيْهِمْ وَأَحْصَىٰ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ عَدَدًا (28)
So He makes evident that they have delivered the messages of their Lord, and He has encompassed what is with them and has enumerated everything in numbers.
[Al Quran ; 72:28]

Consider this, Allah has told us that the Quran is detailed, clear and complete for our guidance, what sense does it then make to say that Allah is telling us to follow more/separate guidance from Muhammad? Consider:

And is it not sufficient for them that We have sent down upon you the book which is recited to them? Indeed, in that is a mercy and a reminder for a people who believe.[Al Quran ; 29:51]

Even from this point of view, in order for the Quran to be without contradiction, Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??obey Allah and the messenger‟ cannot mean to obey two separate sources for guidance.
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Ahmed says:

This is indeed another Grandmother of all slams exposing the filthy Mushrikoon from among the Muslims who idol worship Muhammed by making him a partner to Allah in creating religious laws for them based on each�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s wisdom, then they obey both together.

What current Mushriks like Mushrik Boy WittyBoy allege about obeying Allah and Muhammed is nothing new, they are only parroting what their masters and associates parroted since they invented the hadith. Yet they have no shame when you confront them with the clear cut impossibility of half stoning the married adulterers who were ex-slaves.

See this crap from the man made book of Bukhri Springer hadith:

The allegation is listed under a sub-chapter that is titled: What was talked about concerning the hadith by one narrator only (UHADI). What they are trying to say, is simply providing some apologies to why we should uphold the some of the UHADI hadith (a hadith with only one narrator, like the hadith by Abu Hurairah prohibiting marrying a woman one of her unties at the same time). Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s look at this different allegation by Abu Hurairah:

http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?hnum=6718&doc=0

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The doubtful Abu Hurairah alleged:

While we were sitting with the prophet, a man from among the Bedouin stood up and said: Judge between us by the book of Allah. So his opponent said to the prophet: Judge for him by the book of Allah, and if you may permit me to speak. The prophet said to him: Speak.

So the opponent said: My son who was working for him (the Bedouin), committed adultery with his wife (the wife of the Bedouin), so I was told that my son should be stoned, but I ransomed him with 100 sheep and a newly born one, then I asked those with knowledge and they informed me that I have to lash my son 100 lashes and expel him from the land for one year.

So the messenger of Allah said: By Whom Who controls my soul, I will judge between you by the book of Allah, as for the sheep and the newly born one, they should be returned to you, and as for your son, he should be lashed 100 lashes and be expelled from the land for a year.

And as for you Anis to go to the wife of Bedouin, and if she confesses then stone her.

Anis went to her and she confessed and he stoned her.

End of hadith

What is funny but consistent with these man made rubbish books of hadith that when they want to enforce and man made law, they repeat the same incident numerous times which must result in numerous and contradicting accounts, the above allegation for example was repeated through any of the following variables:

- The two men were, a Bedouin and another anonymous man
- The two men were anonymous men
- The two men went to the prophet to seek his judgment
- The two men were sitting with the prophet and one stood up to seek his judgment
- The adulterer was the son of Bedouin
- The adulterer was the son of other anonymous man
- The adulteress was the wife of Bedouin
- The adulteress was the wife of other anonymous man
- The ransom was 100 sheep and a newly born one
- The ransom was 100 sheep and a female slave
- The ransom was 100 sheep and a male slave
- The confession of the adulteress was not required
- The confession of the adulteress was required
- They went to the adulteress and stoned her
- They brought the adulteress to them and stoned her

Well, the spin did not stop there, they tried to elaborate on the above crap in their other man made Bukhari based book Fath al-Bari, so they said:

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Apparently when they elaborated about the above crap of hadith, they did not care about the main subject in hand: Should we stone the adulterers under the Islamic sharia or not? What they cared about is to convince the wannabe hadith worshippers that if a hadith is narrated by one person only, then that is not a strong ground to dismiss the hadith, please be aware that most Abu Hurairah hadith were only narrated by one narrator who was him, i.e. they are indirectly defending the hadith of the always doubtful Abu Hurairah. So here are parts of what they said above:

Ibn Al-Qayem said in his refute against those who reject a hadith by one narrator when it states anything that is not found in the Quran:

Sunnah and Quran go together like this:

A- Sunnah may agree perfectly with the Quran.
B- Sunnah may explain something in the Quran
C- Sunnah may state a law that the Quran did not mention

As for the last one above (Sunnah may state a law that the Quran never mentioned), the law must start by the prophet alone so that he is obeyed. That is because if obeying the prophet in only the Quran, then there would not be a SPECIAL OBEDIENCE for him alone, and Allah has said in the Quran: Whoever obeys the messenger, then such one has obeyed Allah.

(Ahmed says: And that is exactly what filthy Mushrik Boy has parroted to us, they continued to say:)

As for those who does not accept the laws that were alleged to be invented by Muhammed in addition to the Quran, unless it is a popular and widely known laws by the prophet, they would have contradicted themselves because we also know from the UHADI hadith all the following laws which are not found in the Quran:

- Prohibiting marrying both a woman and her aunty together
- Prohibiting marrying from those with whom they suckled
- Inheritance of grandmother
- Prohibiting women with periods from fasting and praying
- Laws concerning those who have sex with their wives while fasting
- Allowing Wudo with wine that is made from dates
- Cutting the leg of a re-offending thief
- Giving a share of 1/6 to the daughter of any deceased man, with her aunty
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- And many more which needs a lot of explanation, but all the above laws came from hadith that were alleged by one person only, some of it are conclusive and others are doubtful, but they divided them into 3 categories, and they had their reasons to do so which again needs a lot of explanation going through the principles of Fiqh (understanding the religion)

End of Fath al-Bary�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s elaboration

Well, what a silly apology, if we are going to talk about laws for things that the Quran never talked about, then we have far more than the man made laws invented in their man made books of UHADI hadith, what we should do then? I honestly believe that such laws are not needed, and even some of it can be worked out using the Quran alone, for example the law of prohibiting a woman who has her period from fasting and praying, this law can be worked out from the Quran as follow:

1) Allah commands us to pray while we are physically pure, that is why He commanded us to do Wudo in advance, also Allah told us that the periods make women unclean, therefore they cannot pray while they have their periods.

2) Allah gave exception from fasting to those who are sick as long as they do it later while they are not sick, and because the periods most likely make the women sick, then they may not fast while they have their periods, then do the days they missed later on when they do not have their periods.

The point is this, those hadith worshippers do not want to ponder upon the Quran, they only want to ponder upon their man made hadith while indulging themselves in clear cut shirk, and while being proud of it too, this was clear from the above elaboration when they said that there should be a special obedience for the prophet alone, this when they brought in a sentence from the Quran telling us: Whoever obeys the messenger, then such one has obeyed Allah, let me bring this Quran verse in here:

مَّنْ يُطِعِ الرَّسُولَ فَقَدْ أَطَاعَ اللّهَ وَمَن تَوَلَّى فَمَا أَرْسَلْنَاكَ عَلَيْهِمْ حَفِيظًا (80)
Whoever obeys the messenger, then he indeed obeyed Allah, and whoever turned back, then We have not sent you over them as a keeper.
[Al Quran ; 4:80]

-> Well, someone like me is still obeying the prophet, even if I only take some of the conjectures from their man made hadith books that are qualified by the Quran while rejecting all other conjectures that are contradicting the Quran, I still pray and fast like the prophet, I also adore and respect the Quran that he delivered. How come I cannot be? At least this way, I cannot be exposed to a possible shirk; at least this way I am far safer than those who want to obey allegations about Muhammed for the sake of a special and exclusive obedient to him next to their obedience to Allah. Indeed, it sounds like clear cut shirk to me, and I will never go such way, and never been alhamdulellah.

See, the message of the above verse does not mean that you have to obey both in different and contradicting matters, it makes no sense, rather if you obey Muhammed in all the things that are confirmed by Allah, then you should be considered as obeying Allah as well, no question about it.

But for the hadith worshippers, it goes like this:

- Allah ordains some laws
- Muhammed ordains other different laws, even ones that were already settled by Allah
- They should obey both

It virtually sounds like they consider Muhammed as another human god who has the same power that the real divine God has.

It seems that those hadith worshippers did not read the next two verses after 4:80, so let me bring them in here:

وَيَقُولُونَ طَاعَةٌ فَإِذَا بَرَزُواْ مِنْ عِندِكَ بَيَّتَ طَآئِفَةٌ مِّنْهُمْ غَيْرَ الَّذِي تَقُولُ وَاللّهُ يَكْتُبُ مَا يُبَيِّتُونَ فَأَعْرِضْ عَنْهُمْ وَتَوَكَّلْ عَلَى اللّهِ وَكَفَى بِاللّهِ وَكِيلاً (81)
And they say: Obedience. But when they leave from your presence, a party of them spend the night changing what you say; and Allah records what they change at night, so turn aside from them and trust in Allah, and it is enough that Allah is Trustee.
[Al Quran ; 4:81]

-> Wow, the above verse is like virtually talking about those hadith worshippers, remember when Ahmed Ibn Hanbal recorded in his man made hadith books 6 times that the prophet commanded the people not write anything he says but the Quran, as well Ibn Magih told us that the prophet told the people not to talk too much about him, but we know that most of the people turned back, i.e. they started to write anything the prophet says, as well talk like mad about him for 1200 years and we are still counting, 4:81 seems like describing so (indirectly): وَيَقُولُونَ طَاعَةٌ فَإِذَا بَرَزُواْ مِنْ عِندِكَ بَيَّتَ طَآئِفَةٌ مِّنْهُمْ غَيْرَ الَّذِي تَقُولُ , i.e. And they say: Obedience. But when they leave from your presence, a party of them spend the night changing what you say;

That is why such people cannot be obeying Allah because they were not obeying what Muhammed commanded them; in fact they were even changing what Muhammed was telling them.

We have also seen clearly so many contradictions and discrepancies in all the above hadith about stoning, yet those hadith worshippers chose to ponder upon it then spread it between them, while never ponder upon what was sent to them from Allah (the Quran), see the next verse:

أَفَلاَ يَتَدَبَّرُونَ الْقُرْآنَ وَلَوْ كَانَ مِنْ عِندِ غَيْرِ اللّهِ لَوَجَدُواْ فِيهِ اخْتِلاَفًا كَثِيرًا (82)
Do they not ponder upon the Quran? And if it had been from anyone other than Allah, they would have found in it many discrepancy.
[Al Quran ; 4:82]

-> Certainly the above verse should put these man made books of rubbish hadith to shame, in the chapter about stoning, there are zillions of discrepancies. These man made books have to have all these masses of contradictions it has to be, because such they are not from Allah. This is how it beautifully and indirectly described: وَلَوْ كَانَ مِنْ عِندِ غَيْرِ اللّهِ لَوَجَدُواْ فِيهِ اخْتِلاَفًا كَثِيرًا , i.e. And if it had been from anyone other than Allah, they would have found in it many discrepancy.


Here you have it AGAIN, Mushrikoon and kafirs from among the hadith worshippers; another Grandmother of all slams. See this:



And I have a another surprise for al Mushrikoon and kafirs from among the hadith worshipers, enjoy:

Another surprise, anothet surprise

Salam

[BMZ]

[BMZ]

[AhmedBahgat]

Salam all

Al-Mushrikoon from among the hadith worshipping Muslims and their fellow hadith worshipping kafirs allege to us that because of the following verse:

لَقَدْ كَانَ لَكُمْ فِي رَسُولِ اللَّهِ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ لِمَنْ كَانَ يَرْجُو اللَّهَ وَالْيَوْمَ الْآخِرَ وَذَكَرَ اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا (21)
There has certainly been for you a good example in the messenger of Allah for whoever desires Allah and the last day and remembers Allah often.
[Al Quran ; 33:21]

That we must shirk the man made rubbish books of hadith with Quran as being two sources of guidance.

1- The guidance of Allah in Quran
2- The guidance of Muhammed in the man made rubbish books of hadith

A clear cut case of shirk, this is because we only have one guidance, see these verses:

وَلاَ تُؤْمِنُواْ إِلاَّ لِمَن تَبِعَ دِينَكُمْ قُلْ إِنَّ الْهُدَى هُدَى اللّهِ أَن يُؤْتَى أَحَدٌ مِّثْلَ مَا أُوتِيتُمْ أَوْ يُحَآجُّوكُمْ عِندَ رَبِّكُمْ قُلْ إِنَّ الْفَضْلَ بِيَدِ اللّهِ يُؤْتِيهِ مَن يَشَاء وَاللّهُ وَاسِعٌ عَلِيمٌ (73)
And do not believe except to those who follow your religion. Say: Indeed, the guidance is the guidance of Allah. Lest someone be given like what you were given; or they would argue with you before your Lord. Say: Indeed, the grace is in the hand of Allah, He gives it to whom He wills; and Allah is Vast, Knowing.
[Al Quran ; 3:73]

-> See, it is only one guidance, not two as the Mushrikoon desire: Say: Indeed, the guidance is the guidance of Allah. Not the guidance of Allah and the guidance of Muhammed.

قُلْ أَنَدْعُو مِن دُونِ اللّهِ مَا لاَ يَنفَعُنَا وَلاَ يَضُرُّنَا وَنُرَدُّ عَلَى أَعْقَابِنَا بَعْدَ إِذْ هَدَانَا اللّهُ كَالَّذِي اسْتَهْوَتْهُ الشَّيَاطِينُ فِي الأَرْضِ حَيْرَانَ لَهُ أَصْحَابٌ يَدْعُونَهُ إِلَى الْهُدَى ائْتِنَا قُلْ إِنَّ هُدَى اللّهِ هُوَ الْهُدَىَ وَأُمِرْنَا لِنُسْلِمَ لِرَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ (71)
Say: Shall we call upon other than Allah those which do not benefit us nor harm us and be returned back on our heels after Allah has guided us? It is like one whom the devils have enticed in the land wandering; he has companions who call him to guidance, (saying): Come to us. Say: Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the guidance, and we are commanded to submit to the Lord of the worlds.
[Al Quran ; 6:71]

-> See again: Say: Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the guidance Not the guidance of Allah and the guidance of Muhammed.

Not to forget this verse shown earlier:

إِنَّكَ لَا تَهْدِي مَنْ أَحْبَبْتَ وَلَٰكِنَّ اللَّهَ يَهْدِي مَنْ يَشَاءُ ۚ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ (56)
You do not guide those whom you love, but Allah guides whom He wills, and He is most Knowing those who are guided.
[Al Quran ; 28:56]

Therefore it is only one guidance which is the guidance of Allah, I.e. the guidance sent with the messenger of Allah. Not the guidance of Muhammed the man.

The above conclusive fact is enough to slam dunk all those filthy Mushrikoon and their fellow Kafirs who are united in worshipping the man made rubbish books of hadith as a source of guidance.

The main argument of those filthy Mushrikoon is simply this:

They say that to take Muhammed as a good example, we have only the man made books of rubbish hadith to follow such example.

The following fact remains intact:

Ibrahim and those who believed with him are also good examples to the believers as seen below:

قَدْ كَانَتْ لَكُمْ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ فِي إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَالَّذِينَ مَعَهُ إِذْ قَالُوا لِقَوْمِهِمْ إِنَّا بُرَآءُ مِنْكُمْ وَمِمَّا تَعْبُدُونَ مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ كَفَرْنَا بِكُمْ وَبَدَا بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَكُمُ الْعَدَاوَةُ وَالْبَغْضَاءُ أَبَدًا حَتَّىٰ تُؤْمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَحْدَهُ إِلَّا قَوْلَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ لِأَبِيهِ لَأَسْتَغْفِرَنَّ لَكَ وَمَا أَمْلِكُ لَكَ مِنَ اللَّهِ مِنْ شَيْءٍ ۖ رَبَّنَا عَلَيْكَ تَوَكَّلْنَا وَإِلَيْكَ أَنَبْنَا وَإِلَيْكَ الْمَصِيرُ (4)
There has certainly been for you a good example in Ibrahim and those with him, when they said to their people: Indeed, we are disassociated from you and from what you worship other than Allah. We have denied you, and there have appeared between us and you enmity and hatred forever until you believe in Allah alone, except for the saying of Ibrahim to his father: I will surely seek forgiveness for you, but I do not possess for you against Allah anything. Our Lord! Upon You we have relied, and to You we have turned, and to You is the destination.
[Al Quran ; 60:4]

رَبَّنَا لَا تَجْعَلْنَا فِتْنَةً لِلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَاغْفِرْ لَنَا رَبَّنَا ۖ إِنَّكَ أَنْتَ الْعَزِيزُ الْحَكِيمُ (5)
Our Lord! Do not make us a torment for those who have disbelieved and forgive us, our Lord. Indeed, You are the Mighty, the Wise.
[Al Quran ; 60:5]

لَقَدْ كَانَ لَكُمْ فِيهِمْ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ لِمَنْ كَانَ يَرْجُو اللَّهَ وَالْيَوْمَ الْآخِرَ ۚ وَمَنْ يَتَوَلَّ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْغَنِيُّ الْحَمِيدُ (6)
There has certainly been for you in them a good example, for one who desires Allah and the last day; and whoever turns away, then indeed, Allah is the Rich, the Praised.
[Al Quran ; 60:6]

But we don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t have man made rubbish books of hadith about Ibrahim so we can take him as good example as commanded by Allah in the verses above. For the filthy Mushrikoon who abandoned the Quran, we can only know about those good examples through their man made rubbish books of hadith.

Opps, we have man made rubbish hadith in Bukhari and Muslim telling us about prophet Ibrahim as an example, unfortunately though, it is not a GOOD EXAMPLE, rather a very bad example of a serial liar. Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s see shall we:

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In simple words, Bukhari is telling us that Abu Hurairah alleged that Ibrahim lied three times. As if this freak Abu Hurairah never lied to us and concealed a great part of hadith from us as he admitted in Bukhari.

Muslim too followed the path of his teacher Bukhari and decided to tell us that Ibrahim was a bad example of a serial lying prophet; see:

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Same crap that Ibrahim was a serial liar; what is funny, in one of the alleged lies by Ibrahim, they alleged:

Ibrahim told his wife Sarah that he will say to the tyrant king that she is his sister and not his wife, because if he knows that she is his wife he will take her for him (to fuk her I guess). How fukin funny, as if the tyrant king was a decent man, that is if Sarah was the sister of Ibrahim, he would have restrained himself from taking her (to fuk her I guess).

The other two alleged lies are equally non sensible likewise the alleged first lie, they actually used Quran verse 37:89 when Ibrahim said that he is sick, of course he was mentally sick and tired due to the shirk of his father and his people, it does not have to mean that he was physically ill. The second alleged lie is about verse 21:63 in which Ibrahim replied to his people after they asked him if he had done so to their man made gods, by saying:

21:63 He said: Rather, the chief of them has done it, therefore ask them, if they can speak.

The idiot Mushrikoon cannot understand the simple logic that Ibrahim was not lying, rather replying by making a strong and irrefutable point against his Mushrik people, it is like Ibrahim said the following exactly:

Why not the chief of these statues had done it? Why not ask them, if they can speak?

The point was clearly made in the same verse that those dumb Mushrik Muslims who abandoned the Quran could not understand, here it is from the verse:

therefore ask them, if they can speak.

Ibrahim never denied the accusation as the filthy misguided Mushrikoon alleged. See the whole story:

قَالُوا أَأَنْتَ فَعَلْتَ هَٰذَا بِآلِهَتِنَا يَا إِبْرَاهِيمُ (62)
They said: Have you done this to our gods, O Ibrahim?
[Al Quran ; 21:62]

قَالَ بَلْ فَعَلَهُ كَبِيرُهُمْ هَٰذَا فَاسْأَلُوهُمْ إِنْ كَانُوا يَنْطِقُونَ (63)
He said: Rather, this largest of them did it, so ask them if they could speak.
[Al Quran ; 21:63]

فَرَجَعُوا إِلَىٰ أَنْفُسِهِمْ فَقَالُوا إِنَّكُمْ أَنْتُمُ الظَّالِمُونَ (64)
Then they returned to themselves and said: Indeed, you are the unjust.
[Al Quran ; 21:64]

ثُمَّ نُكِسُوا عَلَىٰ رُءُوسِهِمْ لَقَدْ عَلِمْتَ مَا هَٰؤُلَاءِ يَنْطِقُونَ (65)
Then they turned to themselves (saying): You have certainly known that these do not speak.
[Al Quran ; 21:65]

قَالَ أَفَتَعْبُدُونَ مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ مَا لَا يَنْفَعُكُمْ شَيْئًا وَلَا يَضُرُّكُمْ (66)
He said: So do you worship other than Allah that which does not benefit you in anything or harm you?
[Al Quran ; 21:66]

أُفٍّ لَكُمْ وَلِمَا تَعْبُدُونَ مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ ۖ أَفَلَا تَعْقِلُونَ (67)
Uff to you and to what you worship other than Allah, so will you not understand?
[Al Quran ; 21:67]

قَالُوا حَرِّقُوهُ وَانْصُرُوا آلِهَتَكُمْ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ فَاعِلِينَ (68)
They said: Burn him and support your gods, if you should be doing (something).
[Al Quran ; 21:68]

-> If Ibrahim was lying trying to save himself, then he would have never told them next:

So do you worship other than Allah that which does not benefit you in anything or harm you?

Uff to you and to what you worship other than Allah, so will you not understand?

And that is why they tried to punish him with the worst punishment, to burn him alive:

They said: Burn him and support your gods, if you should be doing (something).

Certainly the crap found in the man made books of rubbish hadith about Ibrahim showing him as liar and coward who could not even stand up to protect his wife is nothing but clear cut lies that cannot be of any good example to us.

Likewise about Muhammed, these man made evil hadith books are not showing him of a good example, rather a sexual filthy freak who only cared about fuking women all day long and while not even having time to shower himself between the fuks. How shameless and confused those filthy Mushrikoon are. It seems that they don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t read the word �?????�????�???�??�?�¢??GOOD�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?? before the word �?????�????�???�??�?�¢??EXAMPLE�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?? in verse 33:21 that they are using to justify their nature of idol worshipping Muhammed.

And that is what I told you earlier, they don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t even understand the verse they are using to justify their shirk, in fact they don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t also understand the simple fact that Ibrahim is mentioned in Quran more than 62 times, i.e. we have a truthful hadith about Ibrahim that believers can take for granted as good examples about Ibrahim, likewise Muhammed the messenger and the prophet, his good example is detailed in Quran, this will be another slam dunk with which I will hit al Mushrikoon soon inshaallah.

Salam

[AhmedBahgat]

Salam all

Al-Mushrikoon from among the hadith worshipping Muslims and their fellow hadith worshipping kafirs allege to us that because of the following verse:

لَقَدْ كَانَ لَكُمْ فِي رَسُولِ اللَّهِ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ لِمَنْ كَانَ يَرْجُو اللَّهَ وَالْيَوْمَ الْآخِرَ وَذَكَرَ اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا (21)
There has certainly been for you a good example in the messenger of Allah for whoever desires Allah and the last day and remembers Allah often.
[Al Quran ; 33:21]

That we must shirk the man made rubbish books of hadith with Quran as being two sources of guidance.

1- The guidance of Allah in Quran
2- The guidance of Muhammed in the man made rubbish books of hadith

A clear cut case of shirk, this is because we only have one guidance, see these verses:

وَلاَ تُؤْمِنُواْ إِلاَّ لِمَن تَبِعَ دِينَكُمْ قُلْ إِنَّ الْهُدَى هُدَى اللّهِ أَن يُؤْتَى أَحَدٌ مِّثْلَ مَا أُوتِيتُمْ أَوْ يُحَآجُّوكُمْ عِندَ رَبِّكُمْ قُلْ إِنَّ الْفَضْلَ بِيَدِ اللّهِ يُؤْتِيهِ مَن يَشَاء وَاللّهُ وَاسِعٌ عَلِيمٌ (73)
And do not believe except to those who follow your religion. Say: Indeed, the guidance is the guidance of Allah. Lest someone be given like what you were given; or they would argue with you before your Lord. Say: Indeed, the grace is in the hand of Allah, He gives it to whom He wills; and Allah is Vast, Knowing.
[Al Quran ; 3:73]

-> See, it is only one guidance, not two as the Mushrikoon desire: Say: Indeed, the guidance is the guidance of Allah. Not the guidance of Allah and the guidance of Muhammed.

قُلْ أَنَدْعُو مِن دُونِ اللّهِ مَا لاَ يَنفَعُنَا وَلاَ يَضُرُّنَا وَنُرَدُّ عَلَى أَعْقَابِنَا بَعْدَ إِذْ هَدَانَا اللّهُ كَالَّذِي اسْتَهْوَتْهُ الشَّيَاطِينُ فِي الأَرْضِ حَيْرَانَ لَهُ أَصْحَابٌ يَدْعُونَهُ إِلَى الْهُدَى ائْتِنَا قُلْ إِنَّ هُدَى اللّهِ هُوَ الْهُدَىَ وَأُمِرْنَا لِنُسْلِمَ لِرَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ (71)
Say: Shall we call upon other than Allah those which do not benefit us nor harm us and be returned back on our heels after Allah has guided us? It is like one whom the devils have enticed in the land wandering; he has companions who call him to guidance, (saying): Come to us. Say: Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the guidance, and we are commanded to submit to the Lord of the worlds.
[Al Quran ; 6:71]

-> See again: Say: Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the guidance Not the guidance of Allah and the guidance of Muhammed.

Not to forget this verse shown earlier:

إِنَّكَ لَا تَهْدِي مَنْ أَحْبَبْتَ وَلَٰكِنَّ اللَّهَ يَهْدِي مَنْ يَشَاءُ ۚ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ (56)
You do not guide those whom you love, but Allah guides whom He wills, and He is most Knowing those who are guided.
[Al Quran ; 28:56]

Therefore it is only one guidance which is the guidance of Allah, I.e. the guidance sent with the messenger of Allah. Not the guidance of Muhammed the man.

The above conclusive fact is enough to slam dunk all those filthy Mushrikoon and their fellow Kafirs who are united in worshipping the man made rubbish books of hadith as a source of guidance.

The main argument of those filthy Mushrikoon is simply this:

They say that to take Muhammed as a good example, we have only the man made books of rubbish hadith to follow such example.

The following fact remains intact:

Ibrahim and those who believed with him are also good examples to the believers as seen below:

قَدْ كَانَتْ لَكُمْ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ فِي إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَالَّذِينَ مَعَهُ إِذْ قَالُوا لِقَوْمِهِمْ إِنَّا بُرَآءُ مِنْكُمْ وَمِمَّا تَعْبُدُونَ مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ كَفَرْنَا بِكُمْ وَبَدَا بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَكُمُ الْعَدَاوَةُ وَالْبَغْضَاءُ أَبَدًا حَتَّىٰ تُؤْمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَحْدَهُ إِلَّا قَوْلَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ لِأَبِيهِ لَأَسْتَغْفِرَنَّ لَكَ وَمَا أَمْلِكُ لَكَ مِنَ اللَّهِ مِنْ شَيْءٍ ۖ رَبَّنَا عَلَيْكَ تَوَكَّلْنَا وَإِلَيْكَ أَنَبْنَا وَإِلَيْكَ الْمَصِيرُ (4)
There has certainly been for you a good example in Ibrahim and those with him, when they said to their people: Indeed, we are disassociated from you and from what you worship other than Allah. We have denied you, and there have appeared between us and you enmity and hatred forever until you believe in Allah alone, except for the saying of Ibrahim to his father: I will surely seek forgiveness for you, but I do not possess for you against Allah anything. Our Lord! Upon You we have relied, and to You we have turned, and to You is the destination.
[Al Quran ; 60:4]

رَبَّنَا لَا تَجْعَلْنَا فِتْنَةً لِلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَاغْفِرْ لَنَا رَبَّنَا ۖ إِنَّكَ أَنْتَ الْعَزِيزُ الْحَكِيمُ (5)
Our Lord! Do not make us a torment for those who have disbelieved and forgive us, our Lord. Indeed, You are the Mighty, the Wise.
[Al Quran ; 60:5]

لَقَدْ كَانَ لَكُمْ فِيهِمْ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ لِمَنْ كَانَ يَرْجُو اللَّهَ وَالْيَوْمَ الْآخِرَ ۚ وَمَنْ يَتَوَلَّ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْغَنِيُّ الْحَمِيدُ (6)
There has certainly been for you in them a good example, for one who desires Allah and the last day; and whoever turns away, then indeed, Allah is the Rich, the Praised.
[Al Quran ; 60:6]

But we don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t have man made rubbish books of hadith about Ibrahim so we can take him as good example as commanded by Allah in the verses above. For the filthy Mushrikoon who abandoned the Quran, we can only know about those good examples through their man made rubbish books of hadith.

Opps, we have man made rubbish hadith in Bukhari and Muslim telling us about prophet Ibrahim as an example, unfortunately though, it is not a GOOD EXAMPLE, rather a very bad example of a serial liar. Let�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s see shall we:

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In simple words, Bukhari is telling us that Abu Hurairah alleged that Ibrahim lied three times. As if this freak Abu Hurairah never lied to us and concealed a great part of hadith from us as he admitted in Bukhari.

Muslim too followed the path of his teacher Bukhari and decided to tell us that Ibrahim was a bad example of a serial lying prophet; see:

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Same crap that Ibrahim was a serial liar; what is funny, in one of the alleged lies by Ibrahim, they alleged:

Ibrahim told his wife Sarah that he will say to the tyrant king that she is his sister and not his wife, because if he knows that she is his wife he will take her for him (to fuk her I guess). How fukin funny, as if the tyrant king was a decent man, that is if Sarah was the sister of Ibrahim, he would have restrained himself from taking her (to fuk her I guess).

The other two alleged lies are equally non sensible likewise the alleged first lie, they actually used Quran verse 37:89 when Ibrahim said that he is sick, of course he was mentally sick and tired due to the shirk of his father and his people, it does not have to mean that he was physically ill. The second alleged lie is about verse 21:63 in which Ibrahim replied to his people after they asked him if he had done so to their man made gods, by saying:

21:63 He said: Rather, the chief of them has done it, therefore ask them, if they can speak.

The idiot Mushrikoon cannot understand the simple logic that Ibrahim was not lying, rather replying by making a strong and irrefutable point against his Mushrik people, it is like Ibrahim said the following exactly:

Why not the chief of these statues had done it? Why not ask them, if they can speak?

The point was clearly made in the same verse that those dumb Mushrik Muslims who abandoned the Quran could not understand, here it is from the verse:

therefore ask them, if they can speak.

Ibrahim never denied the accusation as the filthy misguided Mushrikoon alleged. See the whole story:

قَالُوا أَأَنْتَ فَعَلْتَ هَٰذَا بِآلِهَتِنَا يَا إِبْرَاهِيمُ (62)
They said: Have you done this to our gods, O Ibrahim?
[Al Quran ; 21:62]

قَالَ بَلْ فَعَلَهُ كَبِيرُهُمْ هَٰذَا فَاسْأَلُوهُمْ إِنْ كَانُوا يَنْطِقُونَ (63)
He said: Rather, this largest of them did it, so ask them if they could speak.
[Al Quran ; 21:63]

فَرَجَعُوا إِلَىٰ أَنْفُسِهِمْ فَقَالُوا إِنَّكُمْ أَنْتُمُ الظَّالِمُونَ (64)
Then they returned to themselves and said: Indeed, you are the unjust.
[Al Quran ; 21:64]

ثُمَّ نُكِسُوا عَلَىٰ رُءُوسِهِمْ لَقَدْ عَلِمْتَ مَا هَٰؤُلَاءِ يَنْطِقُونَ (65)
Then they turned to themselves (saying): You have certainly known that these do not speak.
[Al Quran ; 21:65]

قَالَ أَفَتَعْبُدُونَ مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ مَا لَا يَنْفَعُكُمْ شَيْئًا وَلَا يَضُرُّكُمْ (66)
He said: So do you worship other than Allah that which does not benefit you in anything or harm you?
[Al Quran ; 21:66]

أُفٍّ لَكُمْ وَلِمَا تَعْبُدُونَ مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ ۖ أَفَلَا تَعْقِلُونَ (67)
Uff to you and to what you worship other than Allah, so will you not understand?
[Al Quran ; 21:67]

قَالُوا حَرِّقُوهُ وَانْصُرُوا آلِهَتَكُمْ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ فَاعِلِينَ (68)
They said: Burn him and support your gods, if you should be doing (something).
[Al Quran ; 21:68]

-> If Ibrahim was lying trying to save himself, then he would have never told them next:

So do you worship other than Allah that which does not benefit you in anything or harm you?

Uff to you and to what you worship other than Allah, so will you not understand?

And that is why they tried to punish him with the worst punishment, to burn him alive:

They said: Burn him and support your gods, if you should be doing (something).

Certainly the crap found in the man made books of rubbish hadith about Ibrahim showing him as liar and coward who could not even stand up to protect his wife is nothing but clear cut lies that cannot be of any good example to us.

Likewise about Muhammed, these man made evil hadith books are not showing him of a good example, rather a sexual filthy freak who only cared about fuking women all day long and while not even having time to shower himself between the fuks. How shameless and confused those filthy Mushrikoon are. It seems that they don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t read the word �?????�????�???�??�?�¢??GOOD�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?? before the word �?????�????�???�??�?�¢??EXAMPLE�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?? in verse 33:21 that they are using to justify their nature of idol worshipping Muhammed.

And that is what I told you earlier, they don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t even understand the verse they are using to justify their shirk, in fact they don�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t also understand the simple fact that Ibrahim is mentioned in Quran more than 62 times, i.e. we have a truthful hadith about Ibrahim that believers can take for granted as good examples about Ibrahim, likewise Muhammed the messenger and the prophet, his good example is detailed in Quran, this will be another slam dunk with which I will hit al Mushrikoon soon inshaallah.

Salam

[BMZ]

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[AhmedBahgat]

Salam bro BMZ

Your quoted all three sentences right mate, and I agree with you, why we need this hadith while Allah already told us so in Quran that His mercy may encompass everything


Cheers

[AhmedBahgat]

Salam bro BMZ

Your quoted all three sentences right mate, and I agree with you, why we need this hadith while Allah already told us so in Quran that His mercy may encompass everything


Cheers

[BMZ]

[BMZ]

[BMZ]

Let us take a look at another absurd Hadith-e-Qudsi:

[BMZ]

Let us take a look at another absurd Hadith-e-Qudsi: